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Help Building a Pack [R]1 month agoflextrek_whipsnake posted submission on WildernessBackpacking.
Sept. 14, 2019
Okay so I’m brand new and have a full tang knife and flint setup to my name. I need to start from the beginning but have no idea what I should be shooting for. I would like to do some 1-2 day in and out trips to start. What brands should I be looking at? I’m sure quality and weight are huge but I don’t want to break the bank. My father in law gives me a lot of advice but all of his items are 200-500 bucks and I can’t swing that. Any help/advice is appreciated.
Sept. 14, 2019
That's a pretty good deal for what you get. Note that the sleeping pad is not an optional item. You need insulation from the ground. You'll also need a pack, and on a budget I would recommend the REI Coop Flash 55. REI has a reputation for being expensive, but the REI brand stuff tends to be pretty good value.
You can also keep an eye on used gear on Craigslist. It's not uncommon to find used gear in good condition for 50% off retail. Good brands to look out for are Osprey for packs, Big Agnes for tents, Western Mountaineering/Feathered Friends for bags (tons of brands here), and Thermarest for pads. There are way more good brands (e.g. NEMO), but those are the big ones known for high quality.
Beyond those four things, you will need:
- Cook set: Stove and a pot. The MSR Pocket Rocket is great, but if you're really strapped for cash you can make a DIY alcohol stove out of a beer can (I really don't recommend it). This is a really popular pot for backpacking on the cheap. For utensils, grab a plastic spork from Taco Bell or something. Knorr pasta sides + spam singles are a great cheap backpacking dinner. You can also ignore all of this and just eat cold food.
- Water filter: Sawyer Squeeze. Watch some youtube videos on how to use it.
- Headlamp: Black Diamond is the main brand here. Just get the cheapest one you can find, or skip it and bring the lightest flashlight you own.
- First aid kit: Don't buy a premade one. You need ibuprofen, benadryl (doubles as a sleep aid), anti-diarrhea (not necessary but when you need it you really need it), assorted bandaids, strong tape, gauze, and neosporin.
- Water storage: 1L Smartwater bottles (or any brand of 1L plastic bottles, but Smartwater is the classic backpacker choice for their superior durability). Necessary capacity depends on where you're going, but at least 2L.
- Rain gear: Frogg Toggs
- Insulating layer: You probably own a fleece or puffy already, so bring that.
- Miscellaneous: Hand sanitizer, toilet paper, bug spray
I probably forgot something but that should cover it.
Looking for budget backpacking aluminum cookware recommendations. [R]1 month, 2 weeks agoHuskie407 posted submission on CampingGear.
Sept. 1, 2019
I know exactly what kind of pots I want, but I'm having trouble finding them at a decent price.
Here's what I'm looking for:
- Hard anodized aluminum. This is the best material IMO because of it's good conductivity, non-stick properties, and ability to be used with metal tools.
- Sold individually, in a range of sizes around the 1-3 L capacity.
- Traditional wide bottom shape. None of this newfangled tall mug shaped nonsense, I don't understand it and it scares me.
- Integrated handle. Preferable this kind of style.
There are a couple tradition american market companies that make products that meet most of the criteria.
But those options are quite pricey and aren't exactly what I want.
Does anyone know any budget option for the kind of pots's I'm looking for? I'm trying to explore more of the international or niche market options but it's pretty confusing to navigate.
Sept. 2, 2019
Pulled this off my budget backpacking bookmarks list.
Weekly Discussion for Week of June 3rd, 2019 [R]4 months, 2 weeks agoA_jaxson posted submission on Ultralight.
June 3, 2019
Take a paddle down the Bofa River this week.
June 9, 2019
Grease pot. It’s just slightly over a liter, but I’d love to see how it stacks up, especially for $7.
Girlfriend Wants to Make Eggs [R]1 year, 4 months agowdead posted submission on Ultralight.
June 6, 2018
So the lady wants to make eggs out in the wilderness. What’s a good & fairly cheap pan/cookset to go with? (Preferably from Amazon)
June 6, 2018
Literally any pot will work with eggs. Just use a layer of oil/fat and stir often on now heat.
Edit: So buy a pot that will meet more of your cooking needs, or just get a cheap imusa pot that is UL anyway.
Stanco GS1200 Non-Stick Grease Strainer, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000MVTIOQ/ref=cmswrcpapai-8ggBbVA0E7H8
Good cheap, light cookware? [R]1 year, 5 months agojimpoker posted submission on Ultralight.
May 14, 2018
Trying to source a pot I can use for cooking, but I can't afford a $60 hike cookware kit. Any good alternatives? I'd be happy to ruck the extra weight if it means I'm not shelling out a ton.
edit: Am Australian, can't use non-Australasian swap sites.
May 14, 2018
Here it is on Amazon. I've been using one for years with a cat stove and aluminum foil windscreen. Total cost less than $10 and UL.
LPT: Bake bacon in the oven rather than pan frying. It comes out evenly cooked and has a much better consistency. [R]1 year, 5 months agoJytfui86tgg posted submission on LifeProTips.
April 26, 2018
Edit: Bake at 375 for 12-15 minutes. I usually check it at 10 minutes to make sure it doesn't get too crispy. Take it out once it just starts to get golden brown. It keeps cooking a little bit even when it's out of the oven.
Edit2: There is much debate over how to cook bacon, it seems. Lots of diehard cast iron skillet users. There is also the parchment paper method which I have just learned about -- placing the bacon on parchment paper, setting oven to 400 and placing baking in cold oven for 18 minutes. Parchment paper and wax paper aren't the same thing as wax paper will ruin your precious bacon and possibly start a fire at 400 degrees.
There's also the microwave method for those in a real hurry (in my opinion, at the detriment to quality, but to each their own): Use lots of paper towels below bacon and one paper towel above to avoid a messy microwave.
Takeaway trays as camping pots [R]1 year, 9 months agooritron posted submission on Ultralight.
Jan. 7, 2018
What is your opinion on using aluminium foil takeaway trays as saucepans to boil water? I would be using them in mountain marathons and multi day hikes is this advisable? Thanks.
Jan. 7, 2018
They won't melt; as long as there's water inside the temperature is limited. However, I do think the flexible crinkled nature + backpack compression will lead to fatigue failure, and a leaky saucepan isn't worth much. Take a look at this grease pot, it's as light as I would go (and have gone) on aluminum pots. You can deform it with your hand but it won't spring a surprise leak when you need it.
Kovea spider users... What ti pot are you using? [R]1 year, 10 months agokananjarrus posted submission on Ultralight.
Dec. 21, 2017
I've mostly been using esbit in my winter setup, but the time of year where frozen water sources are more consistent is approaching. I'm looking for ti pots to pack a spider into. I know it can be crammed into a snowpeak 780 with canister. Any other suggestions?
Dec. 21, 2017
Never tried melting snow but it holds almost a liter and has a wide bottom and is $5 so you can't really lose out there if you want to try it.
Generally cheaper at walmart than on Amazon.
[WTB] Budget cook system - Stove and Pot [R]1 year, 10 months agodgoggins2 posted submission on GearTrade.
Dec. 8, 2017
Looking to put together a budget cook system. Let me know what you've got!
Dec. 9, 2017
Stanco grease pot....a $9 pot, with no handles or anything. https://www.amazon.com/Stanco-Non-Stick-Grease-Strainer-Black/dp/B000MVTIOQ/ref=sr11?ie=UTF8&qid=1512796499&sr=8-1&keywords=stanco+grease+pot
[Gear] Need Advice about Backpacking Cookware [R]1 year, 11 months agoDavidWiese posted submission on WildernessBackpacking.
Nov. 12, 2017
I am a first-time backpacker and am seeking advice on whether I should buy a Stanley Camp 24 oz. Camp Cook Set or go to a military surplus store and buy a canteen with a tin cup. I see pros with either one; the Stanley has a compact and easy design that will sit well atop a small stove but at the same time the canteen allows me to carry cooking water in the canteen part and carry the actual cook cup in the same assembly. But most of all, they are both very price effective and both would suit my needs. Does anyone have advice on which one I should buy? All opinions are encouraged.
-O NOTE: I do not know if this matters at all but this will be for the spring backpacking season, not for winter.
Looking to lighten my pack [R]2 years, 1 month agoRygorMortis posted submission on Ultralight.
Aug. 23, 2017
Current Gear List: https://lighterpack.com/r/3qwam9
I have gotten a general list of what I am planning on buying together. This is my first time buying UL gear and I just want to get opinions before I buy it.
Pack: MLD Burn 38L, if it’s too small then I will return it and get the MLD Prophet 48L. I also want it to be able to be big enough to carry a bear canister.
Tent: Six Moon Designs Skyscape Scout, it has an option to buy carbon fiber poles, but they are $30 each and you need 2. I could also use trekking poles, but I really don’t see myself using them for hiking. Six Moon Designs also apparently had aluminum poles for half the price of the carbon fiber, but they aren’t on the store anymore. Anyone know where to get 45” long poles that aren’t $30 each?
Groundcloth: Tyvek from Six Moon Designs. The website says it fits this tent.
Quilt: I’d like to keep this under $200 or so. I’ve been looking at the Enlightened Equipment Revelation 30 degree, but it’s about $250, so above my budget. I also just found the Hammock Gear Burrow Econ 20 degree for $125, but I’ve heard mixed reviews about it not actually being a 20 degree quilt and being cold. Others say it is fine though. ----------- I just saw this in another shakedown, does this look good? https://www.costco.com/Double-Black-Diamond-Packable-Down-Throw-2-pack.product.100314979.html It’s very cheap and the only issue I see is temperature rating and the length since I am 6’1”.
Sleeping Pad: I was going to buy a Gossamer Gear torso length pad but I’ve heard some people don’t like CCF. I could always just use the Klymit Static V I already have, it would just add about 10 oz. I don’t want to spend $100 on a Thermarest xlite or something similar.
Dirty Water Bag: I know the Sawyer Bag sucks, I was going to get a Evernew 900mL bag.
Filter: I might upgrade from the Sawyer Mini to the Katadyn BeFree.
Multitool: I’ll probably just get a basic Swiss army knife
Toothbrush: I was going to buy the UL kit thing from Zpacks
Pack Liner: Planning on getting the Gossamer Gear pack liner
Gaiters: Are there any better/cheaper options other than dirty girl gaiters?
Location/temp range/specific trip description: North Texas, High Temp- 90s, Low Temp- 30s. This is just a general gear list, I want to be able to add or subtract some clothes based on the weather. Obviously if it is 90 degrees I am not going to bring the fleece jacket but I might add a down puffy if the temperatures are going to be in the 30s. I’d like to do trips to Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Colorado in the future.
Goal Baseweight (BPW): 10lbs, maybe a pound or 2 more.
Budget: Around $500
Non-negotiable Items: Pillow, I have to have a tent with a floor because places in the future (Philmont) require a floor, not going to No Cook yet.
Solo or with another person?: Some group trips, but I want this gear to be able to be solo.
Rain Protection: I have been wondering what I should do about a pack cover or a pack liner. There are good points to both sides, but a pack cover will eventually get stuff inside wet, and a pack liner adds wet weight and gets stuff on the outside and the pack wet. I have heard some people just have both.
Thanks for helping me :D
Aug. 23, 2017
You should absolutely look to buy your pack last, once you have everything else sorted out. If at that point y our base weight is >10lbs, and total weight is around 20lbs, then looking at a frameless pack is fine, but if you end up much higher than that then you will really want a pack with a frame. Also you will be able to estimate how much space you need and avoid having to return the Burn if it ends up being to small.
The EE APEX Rev is $185 for a 30° quilt. I have the older version, and a few other people here have the same thing, and we all love it. It takes up a bit more space in your pack, but the price is great, and the quality is excellent. You also have the Burrow Econ 20° that you mentioned in the same price range.
That Costco throw will only be good to around 50°, and for someone your height it will be short, even if you modify it. I'm 5'9" and it was ok for me, but I've since given it to my dog to use on trips.
You don't have much to lose by testing out the GG pad, they're cheap so if you don't like it it isn't the end of the world, just make sure you try it at home first. Nothing is worse than realizing you hate it when you're out on the trail with no alternative.
For toothbrush just go to Target and buy a cheap brush, I cut the handle on mine so it would fit in a Ziploc bag and it weighs .25oz
Pack liner all the way. They weigh 2oz and keep everything inside dry. Things on the outside don't need to be dry anyway. Pack covers are less than ideal, especially once water starts running down the back
Replace your rain jacket with Frogg Toggs, saves you 5oz for $15. The FT pants suck, so I would leave them at home.
Ditch the sleep clothes. If it's warm you won't need them, and if it's cold you will want something warmer.
You can save 3-4 oz with a new pot. Something like a grease pot is cheap and works well.
Depending on length of trip I would leave the charger or get a lighter one. Anker makes some great ones
You could probably lighten up a lot of you Miscellaneous stuff by paring down your FAK, carrying less sanitizer or sunscreen, and fewer wet naps and all.
Pack advise [R]2 years, 3 months agoTheBimpo posted submission on AppalachianTrail.
July 14, 2017
Going section hiking this summer in Georgia. Never really done any multi-day hiking before. I want to see if anything stands out to you guys. It will likely end up just over 30 lb total weight. Keep in mind a few things:
While I realize that a lot of this is not needed for a section hike, only a thru hike do keep in mind that I am trying to design a pack for an eventual thru-hike. I want to accurately simulate what it will be like to see if I am up for it.
I also realize that my tent/backpack/sleeping pad/stove pot are contributing a lot of weight. I am not ready to budge on those just yet since lightweight options cost 4 times as much. If I were to ever thru hike I likely would upgrade.
It's not quite complete yet. And some items still show 0 because I haven't weighed them yet. Some categories have no items because I haven't picked them out yet.
I am big on minimizing waste. Thus the wood/alcohol stove to cut down on disposable gas canisters being thrown away. And that's also why I'm using rechargeable batteries.
Here ya go: https://lighterpack.com/r/ganag
Edit: Felt I should give an update. The weight was not bad at all. This subreddit made it sound like it was going to be miserable and I was going to die. And a lot of people downvoted me mercilessly for even asking people to explain why their suggestions were better, which does not exactly encourage me to ask any future questions in this subreddit. I still don't understand the UL mentality of cutting out any/all comfort items to drop the pack weight a few lb, which doesn't seem to have any noticeable effect on difficulty unless your pack was already UL to begin with. But to each there own I guess. I just figured if so many experienced hikers felt this way there must be something to it even if it seems counterintuitive to me. But after my hike I felt like I should have gone with my gut and brought a few more "luxury items" as I seemed to suffer a lot more from the lack of those than from the weight. Ironically it was suggested that I should take a few weekend trips and that would wisen me up to the UL mentality but now that I've done that it seems to have cemented my viewpoint much further in the opposite direction.
I was worried about water but in reality I never needed more than 1L. Even in summer. That might not be the case everywhere though since some springs are further apart than others.
I was told to ditch the zippo and bring a bic since they are more reliable by many people. I deeply regretted that on the trail. The BIC mini was awful. It often took several strikes to light just like the zippo but unlike the zippo if there was any breeze it would go out. The flame is so close to your thumb with the bic that it burns you after just a few seconds (not long enough to light tinder). If you try to tilt your hand towards the tinder to get a better angle the flame goes right through your thumb and burns you instantly. If you try to turn it away to protect your thumb it just goes out. The wheel is also too close to the flame and as a result you have to let it cool down between uses or it will burn you when you try to start it again too soon. The flame was also much weaker and took a long time to catch anything. I recognize now why the regular lighters are so long. That would fix all of the issues but then it would be too big/heavy. The only issue with the zippo is it needs to be refilled periodically. I feel this wouldn't be an issue if you had a white gas stove, which runs off the same fuel. And when fall/winter rolls around I might need to get one of those anyways so we'll see. The bic is certainly usable, but it's tricky.
I was also told that the wood stove wouldn't work. Not the case. Even with wet wood and in shelters that had been picked dry it was pretty easy to get a fire going in a couple minutes once I got the hang of it. It boiled water just as fast as a gas stove (and faster than my alcohol stove) and was easy to manage. It weighs about the same as a wind screen and acts as a wind screen for my alcohol stove when no wood is availible so I feel like it isn't really making the pack any heavier. I could not use the alcohol stove without the wood stove/windscreen so I need to have a windscreen anywyas. The flame just kept going out everytime there was a strong gust without it. I've also redone the math six ways from sunday and there doesn't seem to be any scenario where the alcohol stove, once fuel is accounted for, is lighter than a gas stove. Not even for a very short 1-2 day trip. I plan to hike in fall/winter so I will be getting a white gas stove to try out and maybe a gas stove.
The sunscreen was unnecessary. Tree cover was abundant everywhere.
I never got any blisters but I know that if i had stayed out longer I eventually would have since they are inevitable. I'll leave the anti-chafing cream for now.
Didn't need the bear hanging kit because every shelter had a bear canister. But I'm not sure if that's the case everywhere on the trail.
Need to swap the pocket knife out for a real knife. Some people say to use a pocket knife, some say no knife, some say a basic 3" knife. I'm now in the third camp. The pocket knife just could not peel bark very well which is what I needed it for.
Food was a bigger issue than I had thought. I figured at the end of a full day of hiking I would eat anything. In reality I had to force myself to eat dinner because I just wasn't hungry. Somehow that strenuous activity seems to shut down that entire system. It wasn't until I got home after the weekend that I suddenly became very hungry.
Same goes for sore muscles. If I kept moving they were fine even I was tired. But after a 1 hour car ride with no moving suddenly they were extremely sore.
The shelters I find to be pretty useless as far as sleeping goes. I ended up sleeping in a tent next to the shelter both nights. If the shelter had 4 walls and a door it would be great but since there are only three walls the insects will get to you unless you have a tent up. And they're way too small for that.
Sleep was the second big issue other than food. I could not sleep no matter how tired I was. I don't know if this is because it was hot or because of my sleeping gear. But I have a feeling that it was the latter. I am a side sleeper and the sleeping pad and bag wasn't really big enough to accommodate me sleeping that way, which might have been part of the problem. Also it was very noisy, thankfully I brought earplugs but those were very uncomfortable. I'm going to try a hammock next time and hope for the best.
Oh boy, this ended up being much longer than I expected.
July 14, 2017
30lbs, then your food and the extra clothes you're going to add on. You're carrying so much weight you might be miserable. I'm a believer in hike your own hike but man, that's a lot of crap you don't need and a lot of crap that's heavy. Every item you don't NEED is extra weight. It's luxury. It's luxury that's heavy and you're carrying for "just in case" or "so my butt doesn't get dirty"...like that 3oz seat cushion. That stuff adds up fast. Dump it.
Dump that huge pot and get a grease pot.
Dump the zippo for a bic, zippos suck in the woods, bics rarely fail.
Do you already own that tent? 6 pounds is freaking heavy.
Dump the knife sharpener, dump the lantern, the batteries and the charger, dump all of those drysacks and just use trash compactor bags...they cost less and weight almost nothing.
Your sleeping pad is also heavy. Get a cheap blue pad like this for now
Your pillow is among the heaviest available. An Exped Air UL and spare t shirt will save almost half a pound.
You dont need the scrapers and dishcloths, just the scraper, and you don't really need that.
Just those changes saves 5 lbs 2 oz, not counting the tent.
Looking for a lightweight titanium cookset. Which ones should I consider? [R]2 years, 4 months agoTheBimpo posted submission on AppalachianTrail.
May 31, 2017
So I have a GSI Soloist cookset and I love it. Its great and it cleans easily. However, I want something that will be lightweight and that I can place right on an open flame, like a campfire. What are some good cooksets to consider?
In need of inexpensive pot and pan/lid. [R]2 years, 6 months agowhitefloor posted submission on outdoorgear.
April 22, 2017
Since I started hiking more I've used a pot, pan/lid and handle from a cheap cookset. Is there a pot and pan/lid I can get that is lighter than say 15oz for under $25?
Jet Boil. Is it worth it? [R]2 years, 6 months agoshut_the_fuck_up_don posted submission on CampingGear.
April 5, 2017
Hi all. I'm looking into getting the final pieces of gear for some local weekend bike packing this summer and hopefully longer trips in the future. I'm currently looking camp stove/mess kit and don't want to spend a lot on anything yet.
I'm looking at this burner and this cook kit but i'm wondering if the extra money on a jet boil is worth it. I've used one once and got the impression it isn't very versatile. What do you think? any other suggestions are welcome.
Thanks in advance.
April 5, 2017
If you don't want to spend a lot of money right now go with this: http://andrewskurka.com/2011/how-to-make-a-fancy-feast-alcohol-stove/
Then grab some foil from your house for a windscreen and grab a spork from KFC. You'll have a complete cooking setup for less that $10. Plus it's super light.
I've been seeing a ton of people talk about Eagle Rock Loop. I just got back from there a little over a week ago. Here are some pics and a little write up about my gear/experience. [R]2 years, 7 months agoskol_vikings_skol posted submission on Ultralight.
Feb. 28, 2017
For those of you who use a Grease Pot... [R]2 years, 7 months agoMorejazzplease posted submission on Ultralight.
Feb. 23, 2017
How do you remove it from the stove / fire? I have been playing with a few different ideas and have not found a streamlined or UL method yet.
I have tried the bandana-as-a-pot gripper but I ended up just sticking my thumb in the boiling water...
I tried the GSI micro gripper and while it works, it is too small for my fingers and it is hard to securely grasp the pot full of water.
I was thinking about drilling some holes in it and using piano wire or something to make a bail handle. I think this may work alright but I was curious what others do.
Feb. 23, 2017
That is one and is very similar!
I am talking about this one though: https://www.amazon.com/Stanco-Non-Stick-Grease-Strainer-Black/dp/B000MVTIOQ/ref=pdbxgy79img3?encoding=UTF8&pdrdi=B000MVTIOQ&pdrdr=AT2XE5G2MTQ6PBXB800J&pdrdw=BOOJu&pdrd_wg=cHF91&psc=1&refRID=AT2XE5G2MTQ6PBXB800J
I have seen these cheap little canister stoves, but I wondered at their efficiency. So I measured it. Here is my review [R]3 years agoKingPapaDaddy posted submission on CampingandHiking.
Oct. 3, 2016
Oct. 3, 2016
if money is really tight you could use this. I have one and didn't like it, i thought it might be too dangerous. The lid wraps over the pot and can stick when you try to remove it and there's no handle to hold on to it when you take the lid off. I could see me spilling hot water all over. The two Stanley's I linked, the lid fits down inside of the pot, no chance of it sticking.
Base Weight Reduction Advice [R]3 years, 1 month ago89y7t6fdrycfxgvhbnoh posted submission on Ultralight.
Aug. 26, 2016
Hey guys, I've been getting more and more into backpacking. Have another trip coming up over Labor Day, and decided to try to drastically reduce my pack weight from my previous trip (I had more car-camping style gear on that one, and my baseweight was around 40lb!). Needless to say I've made a few big purchases to help reduce weight including a new pack and tent (would have gone with a hammock if I were going solo, but I'm going with the girlfriend and wanted the comforts of the tent with her), and a few other small bits of gear. I still need a new sleeping bag (going with an EE Revelation once I can afford it), but other than that have done pretty well with my weight drop so far.
My baseweight is around 20lb which is good, but I'd like to see if I can shave any more. I've put together a chart where I weighed every item - granted some things are still missing (hiking shoes I'm wearing, small bit of aluminum foil, 2oz container of hikinggoo, some sanitizer wipes and TP) since I didn't get a chance to weigh them, but they'd probably be about .5 lb. Here is a table I put together of all the items I have and have weighed .
Do you guys see any obvious areas I can shave some pounds without buying a whole bunch more new gear?
Aug. 26, 2016
Just a shout out for the humble aluminium grease pot https://www.amazon.com/Stanco-Non-Stick-Grease-Strainer-Black/dp/B000MVTIOQ/ref=sr11?ie=UTF8&qid=1472230462&sr=8-1&keywords=stanco+grease+pot
I bought titanium cookware when I started and ended up getting rid of it, expensive and no better.
Pot sizes? [R]3 years, 2 months ago89y7t6fdrycfxgvhbnoh posted submission on Ultralight.
Aug. 19, 2016
I am looking into creating an ultralight cook set and decided to do some research on pots. I couldn't find anything talking about optimal pot size, so I decided to ask y'all. My needs are -able to cook ramen, instant oatmeal, and rehydrating meals(in pot, not mountain house, etc) -titanium -have a separate mug to make coffee, tea, cider, etc. I was thinking about the toak's 450ml mug And the toak's 600ml pot
Are these good choices? Will they suit my needs? Thanks all who answer.
Aug. 22, 2016
I'll do you one better, here is the optimal pot. https://www.amazon.com/Stanco-Non-Stick-Grease-Strainer-Black/dp/B000MVTIOQ/ref=sr11?ie=UTF8&qid=1471892860&sr=8-1&keywords=stanco+grease+pot
Mess Kit Options [R]3 years, 2 months agoTheBimpo posted submission on CampfireCooking.
Aug. 16, 2016
Does anyone know of a mess kit that is for sale? I want one that I can eat out of, but also use for cooking over a fire.
Aug. 16, 2016
Pot for two hikers [R]3 years, 2 months agopeeholestinger posted submission on Ultralight.
Aug. 2, 2016
My wife and I are shopping for a new pot for extended hikes 3-7 days. We will be eating freezer bag meals for dinner, and oatmeal for breakfast. In other words we will be boiling water with a whisperlite international, possibly my alcohol stove.
We would like graduated measurements, handles, light weight. We are considering the pasta pot, solo pot, and an evernew - all in the 900ml range.
Do you think that is to small? Suggestions?
Edit- Does anyone have the SoloPot ?
Aug. 2, 2016
I thought you were referring to something else in the title.
I have a Stanco grease pot that works well for my GF and I. It was like $10 and weighs like ~~4oz's~~ 3.42 oz with handle replaced with Zing-It.
Edit: corrected grammar, added links and proper weight for the lazy.
Cookware - Light but inexpensive Pot [R]3 years, 3 months ago89y7t6fdrycfxgvhbnoh posted submission on Ultralight.
June 29, 2016
Hey all - I'm looking to get a pot for backpacking. Im not sold on Aluminum or Titanium. I'm having trouble convincing myself its worth it to spend $45+ on a pot. Are there other options out there
July 1, 2016
This. And they're on Amazon for the lazy (cheaper at Kmart) https://www.amazon.com/Stanco-Non-Stick-Grease-Strainer-Black/dp/B000MVTIOQ/ref=sr11?ie=UTF8&qid=1467355948&sr=8-1&keywords=stanco+grease+pot
help choosing soloist cook set [R]3 years, 4 months agoFrankiePoops posted submission on WildernessBackpacking.
June 9, 2016
I'm looking to purchase another option for my cooking setup--I've found that what I'm currently using is a bit more than my husband and I need on the trail.
Our system is one of the pocket rocket lookalikes from Amazon along with the GSI backpacker cookset.
We usually make simple meals/drinks (coffee, mountain house, ramen, etc) and don't do much more than boil water. I'd like something that is lightweight, compact and can work with my stove. We also go solo from time to time so something that was designed for one but will work for two would be perfect.
Any suggestions? I generally shouldn't use an alcohol/wood burning stove where I'm at. I was looking at this set but started to second guess whether this might be more than I need. Maybe just a pot then?
Edit: Thanks for the suggestions everyone. For the curious: I've decided to go ahead and purchase a 700mL titanium pot and will bring along cups/bowls from the set I already have when needed.
Budget Backpacking Gear - Entry-level lightweight items [R]3 years, 6 months agoyurnotsoeviltwin posted submission on CampingGear.
April 21, 2016
Looking for help finding decent backpacking cookware [R]3 years, 6 months agoLoaatao posted submission on CampingandHiking.
April 6, 2016
I've done some research on cookware but I'm still struggling to make a decision. I'm curious about the difference between the MSR Trail Lite Duo System and MSR Quick 2 System. I've also looked into the GSI Bugaboo Backpacker Set. Are there any others you would suggest? Right now it will be for my wife and I to do some overnight trips. I'm hoping she'll expand into longer trips by the end of the summer.
April 6, 2016
I just bought Stefan Hoffman's Cuppa and it's so amazing. It weighs 1.5 oz and it's efficient as heck.
at sea level, it boils 2 cups of water in 6 minutes. 2 oz of isopropyl alcohol provides 12 minutes of burn time.
Plus, he sells them for like $10. It's a killer deal. Comes with a pot stand as well.
For a pot, I use a Grease Pot. It does have a weird coating on the outside that you'll have to blacken off yourself. After about 6 uses, it comes off.
Together, the system weighs like 5 oz with stove, pot stand, pot, and reflectix cosie.
Recipes, tools, and tips for cooking over a fire? [R]3 years, 6 months agoLoaatao posted submission on CampingandHiking.
April 1, 2016
I've never cooked over an actual fire (i've always done freeze-dried). What are some good things to make that don't require that I bring a ton of heavy cooking stuff with me?
What kind of gear do you use for cooking over a fire?
Anyone recommend the Toaks titanium pot with bail? [R]3 years, 6 months ago-KhmerBear- posted submission on Ultralight.
March 26, 2016
But I realized that the seller is new with no ratings and is shipping from china, so I am worried that I might get a fake pot.
Anyone who bought this pot, is there anything to distinguish a fake from real? Also how was your experience with this pot for hiking?
March 27, 2016
No. I've been using this pot over the flames of my Whisperlite twice a day for months and it's a total champ
Thoughts on Four Dog Hard Anodized Pots? [R]3 years, 6 months agowaaaaaaabi posted submission on Ultralight.
March 24, 2016
Does anyone have experience with these Four Dog Pots? I've been searching for a aluminum pot for cooking for two people and came across this. It appears that the often recommended Open Country 2 Quart pot now has a non-stick coating so this looks like it may be a good alternative. The 2 liter Four Dog pot is 6 1/8 ounces with the lid and is far cheaper than any similar sized titanium pot. Anyone have any experience or thoughts?
March 24, 2016
Any pot recommendations? I'd really prefer if it could fit canister fuel and an MSR Pocket Rocket. [R]3 years, 7 months agojcrocket posted submission on Ultralight.
March 19, 2016
March 20, 2016
Haven't personally tried it but I've heard good things about this: http://www.amazon.com/Stanco-Non-Stick-Grease-Strainer-Black/dp/B000MVTIOQ
Rate my basic stuff? [R]3 years, 8 months agoFeb. 11, 2016
I'm a beginner. Planning to go to Pacific Northwest (Yosemite, Yellowstone, maybe Glacier) over June this summer. I'll be doing hikes about 3-5 days long. Going to hike around state parks in the Southeast to get comfortable with my gear, give me your thoughts:
- Sleeping bag: Big Agnes Buffalo Park 40- bought for $87
- Tent- Kelty Salida 2- bought for $120
- Sleeping Pad- Kylimit Inertia XL- bought for $40
- Pack- Kelty Redwing 50- bought for $67
A couple extras I got:
- Trekking Poles- bought for $23
- Food dehydrator- bought for $34. Thought it would be good for making lightweight, tasty trail meals, but I am open to suggestions.
So all this comes in right around $375. Any thoughts or suggestions while I'm in the 30 day return window? Or any suggestions for summer hiking in Yosemite, Yellowstone, Pacific Northwest?
EDIT: Update. I decided to suck it up and go with the Kelty Cosmic 21 with Dri Down. Got it for $130. It was a little pricey, but I think the quality and weight as well as warmth will be worth it. u/TheWildGreen had some awesome advice for cookware below that I think will pair well with the dehydrated meals. Plus, in total it is only like $20. I am also going with the Sawyer Squeeze instead of the mini since it got much better reviews here and on amazon. The minute extra weight is worth the added value.
Since this post seemed pretty popular and packed with info on a wide range of equipment, I'll keep posting updates as I test stuff. This sub and post have helped me a lot with getting started on backpacking, so I hope that this info can help some other people.
Feb. 11, 2016
I actually think this looks pretty good for a beginner/budget kit. Sure there are lots of fancier/lighter options out there but that would cost considerably more. It's often hard at the beginning to balance cost vs. weight. Obviously, there is a point where your pack gets so heavy that it detracts from enjoyment. Short of buying incredibly expensive gear, the best way to keep your weight down is to avoid bringing too much extra stuff. I would HIGHLY recommend getting an inexpensive postal/kitchen scale and weighing the things you're thinking about taking. It helped me a lot to find a balance between comfort/luxury and weight. For instance, a lot of backpackers don't bring a change of clothes except undies and socks. Also, I drink coffee right out of my cook pot instead of bringing an additional cup.
Several people have mentioned that a 50L pack is on the small side. I've actually done a bit of backpacking with a 38L bag prior to upgrading. It may have been the world's hardest game of Tetris, and I had to attach my sleeping bag to the outside, but it worked. I even crammed a bear can in it. That being said, you'll have to use your space wisely and avoid bringing extra stuff.
I use a Sawyer Squeeze Mini. It works fine but the regular version has a higher flow rate. Squeezing works fine but is a bit of a hassle. If you get a Sawyer mini, grab Smart Water from a convince store. The .75 L one has a sport cap which fits GREAT for back-flushing. Then you don't need to carry the awkward/heavy syringe. SmartWater bottles are also some of the lightest and cheapest bottles out there and the durability is great. If you want to get DIY/cheap fancy, you can turn it into a gravity filter which is great. I use a 3 foot piece of the tubing he recommends in this tutorial. http://sectionhiker.com/myog-a-gravity-fed-water-filtration-system-using-the-sawyer-mini-water-filter-by-nathan-taylor/
I agree with other recommendations to get a warmer sleeping bag. Summer is surprisingly cold. I have a 30 degree bag in and often sleep in it with a hat and long johns depending on elevation/latitude even in summer. If I purchased again, I would probably opt for the equivalent 20 degree.
You can definitely get creative with a dehydrator. You can also make a lot of cheap meals from things from the grocery store. Look at instant mashed potatoes, stuffing mix, tuna/salmon packets, ramen noodles, instant grits. You can buy big bags of freeze dried veggies (I like "Just Veggies") to mix into meals too. Pack It Gourmet has some dehydrated grocery items (like cheddar cheese, butter, coconut milk powder) which can be used to spruce up more boring meals.
I would recommend a trash compactor bag to line your backpack to keep your stuff dry. Be prepared for rain/hail if you're in the mountains. A poncho works pretty well. Plus or minus a trash compactor bag around your waist if it gets cold. I have been in VERY cold rain in Yosemite during July so make sure you can get dry and warm if needed. :)
For a cheap & light cook pot, I recommend this. I've been using mine for about 300 miles and it's still going strong. I just use a bandana to grab it: http://www.amazon.com/Stanco-Non-Stick-Grease-Strainer-Black/dp/B000MVTIOQ/ref=sr11?ie=UTF8&qid=1455228004&sr=8-1&keywords=grease+pot
And for a stove, I would just get a canister stove. They're easy to operate but bring a lighter because the Piezo ignitions are notorious for failing to spark. Here's a cheap one on Amazon which has good reviews: http://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-Ultralight-Portable-Backpacking-Ignition/dp/B00B4FY8YO/ref=sr14?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1455228077&sr=1-4&keywords=backpacking+stove
EDIT: As for a knife, I have NEVER needed more knife than this: http://www.amazon.com/Victorinox-Swiss-Classic-Pocket-Purple/dp/B000FNDV8U/ref=sr11?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1455228521&sr=1-1&keywords=swiss+army It primarily gets used for cutting silk bandage tape and slicing salami. I have the Leatherman Sidekick at home. It's a great knife but I've never missed it when backpacking, and it's pretty heavy.
Second guessing my current Ti Pot. [R]3 years, 8 months agotreadedon posted submission on AppalachianTrail.
Feb. 2, 2016
I have a Snowpeak 700ml Ti Pot. The standard classic. I came from a GSI Dualist and after using this pot a dozen times I'm getting kind of sick of burning shit to the bottom of it. I dont know if my backpacker food choices will change a lot when I reconsider the weight of my food, but one of the staple I use now is Uncle Ben's Microwaveable rice, it has a little moisture content to it so it has a little heft to it but I typically add canned meat to one of the assortments available and make a satisfying meal out of it... then spend the next 10 minutes scraping shit off the bottom of my pot. Suffice to say, I do cook in my Pot and I'm thinking Aluminum might be a better choice for me.
I'm trying to find a reasonable pot to replace it made of aluminum. I like the MSR line, but their smallest pot is 1.3L. Way more than I feel I need. I've also looked at the Olicamp XTS Pot. But feel I should look for a wider lower brimmed pot if I'm going to move to something more efficient. Maybe one of you can tell me to stop being a baby and help me keep my current snowpeak. I have lots of time to work this crap out, which is part of the problem. Open to suggestions.
I'm going to cross post to /r/Ultralight
Please Criticize My Gear! I'm about to buy a bunch of stuff! NOBO/March2016 [R]3 years, 9 months agotreadedon posted submission on AppalachianTrail.
Jan. 5, 2016
Me, my girlfriend, a friend of mine and my dog are all starting the AT Mid-March. I've been researching gear almost obsessively since I decided I was going to attempt a thru-hike.
We're planning a test hike in Feb in Louisiana so I need to order most of this gear very soon if I want to make sure it's all here by the test hike.
My GF and I will be sharing a quilt, tent, cookware (basically anything shareable) so even though I have those listed in my pack, my pack will probably be slightly lighter once we share the load on those things.
- I'm mostly worried about the clothes I've selected - will they be enough?
- Backpack sizing question: How do i get sized for a pack that isn't sold in stores around here? I'm guessing ill be Medium/Medium @ 5'8" - 155lbs, 30-32" waist
- Do I want a bug net for my face?
- Will wool socks double as mittens when it's cold?
- Cat Can stove - will I be sorry about going this method?
- TarpTent Cloudburst 3 - I wanted a tent to be comfortable since I assume I'll be sleeping in this a lot more than shelters because of all the people that don't like dogs on the trail. The Rainshadow 2 is another three person tent that is a little cheaper, but doesn't seem as spacious. Also, do I have to worry about places to pitch my tent on the trail with a 3 person tent? Will there be plenty of spots big enough?
- Bluetooth speaker - that is a nice-to-have, I know. But I love music and being able to play music and hike seems like it'd be a great morale boost some days. I would be respectful when hiking in big groups and not play music unless it seemed like people were into it. Do other people bring blue tooth speakers?
Feel free to point out anything else you see missing or that I could change. Also, I did try to shop around for best prices but if you can think of better places to go than those that I've linked, I'm all ears.
Not including the things I already own, I will buy most everything on this list, spare a new cell phone and GoPro for slightly less than $2,000.
How'd I do in my planning?
Jan. 5, 2016
The quilt looks like it would work. At first I was going to agree with everyone else about not bringing one for both but the Accomplice, for the most part, is 2 sleeping bags sewn together. What degree do you plan on getting tho?
The cook set could be replaced with something lighter. Not sure if you want those cups but this is only like 3 oz: http://www.amazon.com/Stanco-Non-Stick-Grease-Strainer-Black/dp/B000MVTIOQ/ref=sr12?ie=UTF8&qid=1452001853&sr=8-2&keywords=grease+strainer If money isn't tight, the TOAKS Titanium pot is the upgraded version of what I've linked.
16 oz of duct tape seems excessive.
The Dry bags seem heavy. You can get others that weigh about 2 oz. http://www.seatosummit.com/product/?item=Ultra-Sil%26reg%3B+Nano+Dry+Sack&o1=0&o2=0&o3=511-32
I think you could get away with the speaker but for 22 oz. I would rather get headphones that are significantly lighter.
I would forgo the Gopro. Phone camera works fine. HYOH tho. GoPros do take really cool shots. You just have 4.54 pounds in electronics alone.
Response to your Questions:
From all the other gear lists I've seen, you have the appropriate amount of clothing. Weight conscious people usually forgo pants for shorts, have 2 base layers, a nice puffy, a rain/wind shell and that is about it. Don't forget light pair of gloves.
Go to the retailer site and they usually have the dimensions of what you are suppose to get.
I've seen some people with it but I would say majority do not. Most that have the bug net for their face usually are bivy/tarp people. Unless you are overly attractive to bugs I would ditch it.
I would just get a cheap/light pair of gloves to be honest. Nothing worst than freezing hands as you try and take down/set up your tent.
Works for some, I tried it. For me took to long to boil water, imo. If you know what you are doing it will be fine. My recommendation is get a wind screen. If it becomes a pain get a http://www.cascadedesigns.com/msr/stoves/rapid-cooking/pocketrocket/product or something similar. I'm not a fan of the jetboils, I believe you can't cook in them.
I can't imagine you will have a problem but I'm not completely sure. All the vids and trail time I've seen there has been lots of spots. You just may have to be a little more selective.
Good luck! If I see a couple with a dog and a cloudburst I'll say hello!
Bushcraft gear list for south MS. Suggestions much appreciated! [R]3 years, 11 months agoNov. 1, 2015
Nov. 1, 2015
Here are my suggestions and thoughts:
Good choice on the Mora.
Remove the cardboard roll from your toilet paper, store in quart ziplock bag (one roll should do it for a pretty long trip, make sure to dig a cat hole and bury your waste)
Sleeping bag and sleeping pad are not the places to cheap out. Get a sleeping bag rated to 20 degrees colder than any temp you expect to experience. If you are looking for cost savings, the standard blue foam pad is hard to beat. It's not as comfortable, but will keep you warm (main purpose of a sleeping pad).
Keep a lighter and knife on you at all times.
Bank line is better than 550 cord, lighter and strong enough for any task you'll need. I'd keep 50' minimum, in 10 foot hanks so you don't need to cut them but can be tied together if longer lengths are needed.
Cut the Mess kit- replace with a single pot (here is a well reviewed lightweight and inexpensive alternative)
Leather gloves will allow you to do dual duty, working with an axe and tending fire (rubber/synthetic gloves are a no-go)
Ditch the multitool, take a Swiss Army knife if you need a secondary blade. In my experience, multitools are heavy and rarely used.
NSAID overuse can sneak up on you, monitor the Advil intake.
Stainless steel water bottle is a great idea, can boil water inside to sanitize in a pinch.
Keep immodium and benadryl in your FAK, you'll thank me when you need them. Bacitracin is great, it can be used instead of vasoline, is great for starting fires in a pinch, and is an awesome antibiotic. Unless you know how to use it, leave the advanced life support gear at home. Duct tape is a must.
The Sawyer Squeeze is the best water filter on the market, is super cheap, and weighs 3 oz. Much better than any other option I've tried. I'd leave the sanitizer pills at home, if I am in a pinch I can always boil water as my secondary method of sanitizing.
Boots are all up to personal preference. Don't buy them online, I'd actually go to the store and get fitted. I've had good luck with Asolos. Don't cheap out on your boots.
Replace utensil kit with long handled spoon, otherwise if you're eating Mountain House you'll end up with food halfway up your arm. I don't take anything other than a spoon, everything I am eating in the bush doesn't need any other utensil. I make my own soups a lot of the time when I'm not eating mountain house, and bulk them up with rice or quinoa, cooking over a campfire whenever possible.
Tea is awesome, especially warm herbal teas at the end of a long night.
The only underwear I buy at this point is merino. Wear it for days without stinking. Try that with even the best synthetic and you'll smell like a ballsack.
Merino socks only, minimum 70% merino. They will stay warm even if they get wet and they'll stink a lot less than synthetic. No cotton, not even once.
If the BDUs are 60/40 synthetic/cotton they may be OK, but I really perfer to avoid cotton. Prana Zions are awesome and not too expensive.
I always bring a merino baselayer (longsleeve and longjohns. Good to give some extra warmth if needed, and great to sleep in.
Sierra Trading Post has a ton of merino blend shirts from super.natural that are amazing. I own like 10 of them, I've tried a lot of gear and would recommend to anyone. Find a 30% off coupon and you can pick them up for about $20, much better than any synthetic shirt you're going to find. Get the longsleeve, use it to replace both your long sleeve and moisture wicking shirts.
I bring a puff as an insulating layer, I prefer synthetic primaloft insulation over down because it will still function when wet. I use a rain jacket as my outer shell (Outdoor Research Helium 2, have tried many rain jackets and this is by far my favorite).
Hope that helps, have fun out there!
Hiking Cook Pot Size/Recommendation? [R]4 years, 3 months agoJune 24, 2015
Cheap Pot [R]4 years, 4 months agoMay 29, 2015
May 29, 2015
I use this grease pot, $10 shipped. Good for heating about 3c of water. http://www.amazon.com/Stanco-Non-Stick-Grease-Strainer-Black/dp/B000MVTIOQ/ref=sr11?ie=UTF8&qid=1432914299&sr=8-1&keywords=grease+pot
Ultralight gear you can actually afford, my 6 favorite items under $20 -- [R]4 years, 4 months agoATstripe posted submission on Ultralight.
May 22, 2015
Any tips for someone trying to build up her gear supply, without buying everything at once? [R]4 years, 6 months agoApril 19, 2015
April 19, 2015
I think the number one item that it pays to start off expensive with is sleeping bag/quilt. Get the nicest 400 to 500 dollar one you can get and learn how to take care of it (Enlightened Equipment or Western Mountaineering). Next would be a lightweight tent but you don't have to go top of the line with that. Something from tarptent.com under 250 would do, no need to buy a 600 dollar cuben one if you're starting out.
Around those items, you can get away with starting cheap. Like start with a cheap external frame pack from the thrift shop then buy a nice one very last. Start with a cheap closed cell foam pad and decide if you want to spend the money on a NeoAir later. Get a headlamp from walmart or use a zipper light until your ready to buy the 50 dollar black diamond or petzl. Use the 3.7 oz 10 dollar grease pot link and decide whether you want to drop 60 on a heavier titanium one later (though I wouldn't if I could do it again).
On that note, there's a few things that IMO you shouldn't spend tons of money on ever. One would be waterproof roll sacks or pack covers (particularly cuben ones). The trash compactor bag method is just as effective. Also if you're hiking east of the Mississippi, alcohol stove is great once you get the hang of it. If west of the Mississippi, you can get a msr pocket rocket equivalent for sub-ten dollars link. It won't last as long as the MSR but it'll get you started.
Walmart trekking poles are fine to start with but won't last. The costco ones are actually supposed to be great value. Shit a pair of 80s ski poles from goodwill will outlast any trekking pole on the market and have cooler colors. Just make sure you get the right length. With a hacksaw and a replacment tip from bd they can be whatever size you want.
There's also no need to drop 150 dollars on the trendiest down coat just yet either. You'll survive with a thrift store fleece and maybe a primaloft vest, it will be a couple oz heavier but you can sweat into it and clean it easier. Buy the patagucci later if you want it.
I like nice raincoat. However the nicest (like my OR helium) lightweight shells will just turn into windcoats after a month on trail. So why not start with a wind jacket? They are cheaper.
These are just a couple ideas based off my personal opinion. I love talking about this shit as much as everyone else.
I bought an IMUSA grease pot to use while camping. After doing a few boil tests on home made alcohol stoves the pot has developed dark spots inside. It almost looks like rust but it's not. Anyone else experience this? Is it still safe to use for cooking? [R]4 years, 6 months agobisonkron posted submission on CampingGear.
March 29, 2015
I am using plain tap water and there has always been at least two cups of water in the pot to boil. The stoves are home made soda can alcohol stoves of different variety. I have tried to scrub the stains but they don't come out. I appreciate any input.
March 31, 2015
I was referring to a different grease pot of theirs:
The one you have may be thick enough to be food grade, it does still look like non-anodized, which would explain the staining.
Getting Base Pack weight down (18lb) [R]4 years, 6 months agoGenghis_John1 posted submission on CampingandHiking.
March 26, 2015
Have fun: http://lighterpack.com/r/ge6ld0
So this is a general setup for 2-7 days this summer. Camping will be all over the place and the pack will be tweaked a bit depending on weather, but I figure this is a 'worst case' scenario.
So really the only thing I know I should replace, but don't want to replace is my pack. It's new-ish, I've spilt iodine on it and it's not going to resell for much. I figure if I can get down around 15lb base I'll be happy enough.
Gold stars are things I haven't purchased yet.
Red stars are things I want to change/leave.
I've been crunching numbers and I'm trying to see which items will give me the biggest win for my money to get me to where I want to be.
- I could drop my cold gear and replace with a wool base layer. I could also wear that to bed and drop the sleeping bag liner. Alternatively (and cheaper) I could replace my liner with a silk one and keep the coldgear. Both give me a pretty good $/g change.
- The sleeping bag is cheap and heavy. Doesn't pack down great either. I've been considering myog'ing it into a quilt. The problem is, I've never tried one, don't know if I like them and know no one who owns one. That could possibly be a free gain of some ounces depending on what I cut though. Should I not butcher my sleeping bag?
- Alternatively, I could myog a synth summer quilt from a kit for ~80. I enjoy sewing (although I'm not great). This would give me a winter bag or a lender and a summer quilt.
- Pots! I was going to settle on the soloist and gut it, which would give me ~9.6 oz in cookware (pot, bowl, coozie, lid). That would cost me ~45. I could also go with an en pasta pot and a cup (600/500?). Which would put me around 6oz. If I can move to TI for ~85 (pot and cup) then we're in good shape. I want it to be able to nest the spider, bic, and a canister or 2. Ideally an 8 oz, but could settle for the 4's. The cup can go in the side pocket around a water bottle. Maybe I don't need a cup. Mainly boil in a bag/rehydrating meals. Or hot chocolate.
- The sleeping pad's a bit heavy, could move to an XLite or something, which if I get on sale (or with my REI 20%) would justify the cost.
Would love some insight on this stuff.
March 26, 2015
You should look into a "grease pot" from WalMart/Kmart. They're also offered on Amazon. They're super cheap ($10), super light (3.5oz w/ lid), and hold around 1.3 liters (just enough for 2 people if needed). You will need to buy some sort of "gripper" or pot lifter, but they're not expensive ($5-$15). If you wanted to save more weight/money, you could go without the pot gripper. There is also info on the internet (backpackinglight.com I think) on modifications you can do to the lid of the grease pot to shave weight further.
Thinking of using this cooking set up [R]4 years, 7 months agoLarge_Eddy posted submission on AppalachianTrail.
March 3, 2015
So I'm thinking this setup is purrfect (get it?). Super cheap, super simple. Has anyone used a similar setup? I'm having a hard time finding a singular cooking pot that doesn't cost $50 and that isn't too big. I found one in my basement but it's 4qts. Like she mentions in the video I need something without rubber so I can cook over a fire when possible. Any comments or experience on this setup would be appreciated! Getting stoked to start!
March 4, 2015
I have used an alcohol stove for about 6 years and I love it. I use mine with an MSR Titan Kettle but it is about $50. A cheap option would be to use a grease pot. Loads of people swear by them. You can buy one at Walmart too. The Toaks titanium pot is around $30. People also use this mug to cook water in and claim it will boil 2 cups. Here is another grease pot that people use.
You can make a windscreen for it out of lightweight aluminum flashing or heavy duty cooking foil.
Cheap Lightweight Backpacking Food [R]4 years, 10 months agodahvzombie posted submission on Frugal.
Dec. 7, 2014
There have been a couple threads on this but more focused on urban backpacking where supermarkets are an option. I need ideas for serious backwoods trips where weight is a real issue and I have to carry all of my food for a week or more from the start. I don't like buying expensive freeze dried stuff and I don't really like the taste of those either.
I know the basics like jerky, trail mix, nuts, ramen, dried fruit, pancake mix etc. What are some other interesting, easy and good things I can add to my menu?
I also like to bring butter even though it's not the most convenient thing. It helps with anything I need to fry up and makes my ramen and fish taste so much better. Any ideas on the best way to transport? It always melts and squishes and is difficult because of that.
I also want ideas to lighten up my cooking system withought buying expensive stuff. I carry one pot, one pan and a canteen cup that I can cook in. Maybe there are other better innovative ways to cook things? Most areas I am in restrict campfires so keep in mind I'm often limited to a backpacking stove.
Any input and experience is appreciated, thanks!
EDIT: Anyone ever tried cooking with foil wrapped stuff placed in coals? I'm interested in field expedient campfire cooking as well. I've seen some cool ideas on you tube but I want to hear from more people who have tried that stuff.
EDIT: Tubes or holes cut in baggies for squeezable stuff has been recommended a lot. I've seen it before but never tried it. With such a strong recommendation I think I'd better.
Dec. 7, 2014
I hiked the Appalachian trail and cooked dinners (and the odd lunch or breakfast) the whole way.
Lightweight backpacking food means dehydrated, and high in fat since it has the most calories per weight. My staples were pasta sides of varying flavors, peanut butter, ramen, quick-cooking pasta and dehydrated sauce, jerky, dried fruit, junk food (candy, honey buns, granola bars etc), cheese, oatmeal, summer sausages, and instant potatoes. I brought some dehydrated vegetables for a little nutrition, added olive oil/cheese to most things to add more calories. A few hot sauce packets go a long way too.
Hikers rarely to never used freeze dried foods due to cost. I ate a couple but they were all given to me.
You could move the butter in a screw top jar, maybe a small peanut butter container?
I did the whole trail with one pot (the infamous grease pot, get rid of the strainer and replace the handle with something lighter. It's as light as expensive backpacking pots at 1/5 the price), one small plastic cup for tea, and a spork. Boil some water, dump in your food, let it simmer for 5-10 minutes, eat. No one carried a pan since they were just dead weight.
Cooking in foil in coals does work. The problem is that stuff you can wrap in foil (potatoes, ground beef, onions etc.) has a very high water content and will therefore be very heavy.
I'm looking to create mess kit for backpacking with and your fantastic advice would be great! [R]5 years, 3 months agos_s posted submission on Ultralight.
June 30, 2014
I have the option of getting one of the Swedish mess kits with the stand and alcohol burner for £20ish. I like the look of it but I was wondering if there was any other similar or better options for a better price.
Carry weight question. [R]5 years, 4 months agoHowdyyy posted submission on hitchhiking.
May 22, 2014
So in a few days I shall embark on my first hitch hiking endeavor. Im crossing the US for a few weeks and I was a curious about an appropriate weight for my back pack. I'm afraid ill over back.
If anyone can give me an estimate I would greatly appreciate it
May 26, 2014
Thanks man! Means a bunch. Glad to hear that any of the info is beneficial to you.
On to food! First thing I want to cover is where you should store your food. The sell all these fancy food bags online that are odor proof, bear proof, and etc. Dont worry about them at all, they are ridiculous. What I recommend is just getting one water proof stuff sack from Walmart. I've literally hiked thousands of miles with their stuff sack and it's still going strong. I have buddies of mine who use plastic bags but if it rains then all of your food gets soggy. Also because the stuff sack from walmart is waterproof it retains odors well, so it's semi-odorless. I've never had any issues with wild animals like racoons, squirrels, or opossums. The material is thick and strong enough to make it difficult for them to get into the bag. In your stuff sack keep a plastic bag for your trash. When you finish eating something throw the wrapper in the plastic bag. When it gets full throw it out and pick up another one from a grocery store.
Like in the last post, the only animal and insect you should ever worry about are bears and ants. Black bears are crafty little devils. I love them so much. If you ever run into a black bear then your adrenaline will surely be pumping, but they really pose no danger. Just be smart. Don't go near them. If it's a big black bear it's not going to give a fuck if your there. It will just meander around until its down doing its thing. If it's an adolescent or younger bear then as soon as it sees or hears you it's going to start sprinting away. Blackbears have always been this way, but it's even more true because so many people hunt them.
Before you set up camp make sure there aren't any traces of ants or ant piles around you. The mesh on your tent will definitely protect you from their scouts, but if quite a few want to get in they will find a way. Ants are nuts.
Some people carry stoves to help cook a variety of meals and to boil water. I personally go stoveless because I'm lazy and I feel comfortable going dry. It saves me like a pound and a half in weight. Even so, I'd definitely recommend using a stove if you need an upper after a long day. Right before going to bed you could have a warm meal in your belly. It's nice and it helps a lot of people keep sane.
If your interested in getting a stove check out the Pocket Rocket. You can get it at Academy and Sports Authority I believe for like $30. REI always marks everything up. You'll need to buy a canister for the stove top to attach to. Everything is really easy to set up and use. If you youtube how to use it, then you'll be set for life. When I do use a stove I stick with my trusty pocket rocket. Oh, forgot to mention that you'll also need to buy a pot if your using a pocket rocket. Here is the cheapest and lightest pot. It's technically a grease pot, but it's legendary among backpackers as a light weight stove pot for cheap.
If I was a rich man I would probably go with a Jet Boil. They aren't actually that expensive, but I don't have any money to spare at the moment and hey, I don't even use a stove. Jet Boil comes with pretty much everything you need to cook already. It's primary use is to boil water. As I'll explain below, most "backpacking meals" are dehydrated and only need you to add boiling water. The Jetboil boils water very well haha.
If your going with a stove then I honestly would recommend you avoid buying Mountain House and Backpackers Pantry. They are expensive, not really that nutritious, and usually dont taste all that good. If you want to keep your backpack light then you have to check how many calories per ounce are in food. If you spent $5 on a backpackers pantry meal your only getting 50 calories per ounce (six ounces). Alternatively if you bought a snickers bar your getting around 125 calories per ounce (2oz) and it only cost $1.00. I'm not big into stove top cooking, but I know some basic backpackers essential meals. oh and quick tip, try to avoid canned goods at all cost! Gets everything dirty, hard to clean, and heavy.
Mac n Cheese with Tuna - Mac N Cheese Box with a container of tuna. Good amount of protein and calories. Tasty too!
Pasta Sides - those things that are already packaged. Boil water and pour it into the package. keep the package in a separate plastic bag and give it like 20-30mins to cook. I usually start this process like an hour before I set up camp.
Mashed Potatoes - Get the loaded version. Same process as the pasta side. Always comes out pretty good. Makes sure to thoroughly mix it though. You can make this cold, without a stove too. I learned this trick from a friend of mine who was very wise and knowledgeable. Get a miniature one of these things. Tang usually has the best one. Use all the powder and then when it's empty you have a portable pot. You pour in the mashed potatoes and alot of water and mix it like a mother fucker. After like a minute it will be good to go. The cheesy potato tastes just like popcorn, it's weird but good.
There are a lot more recipes I'm leaving out. The best way you could find them is to google "Canister Stove Recipes". I've seen some people doing some crazy shit with their stoves.
Now stoveless food is my specialty. Here are some options that are high in calories without weighing too much.
Honey Buns and Snickers are the shit. Tortillas and Peanut Butter. Mixed Nuts. Gold Fish. Dried Fruit. Crackers. Jolly Ranchers. Protein Bars. Gushers. Trail Mix. Chips. Mashed Potatoes. Tuna. Donuts. Drink Mixes. quinoa (I put it in my water bottle and drink it throughout the day). Mayonaise, mustard, and lettuce to put onto a tuna tortilla. Bagels. Day old Pizza. Day old anything for that matter. Olive Oil! If you ever are in a shitty situation and need good luck take a shot of olive oil. It'll taste nasty, but it'll be worth the luck.
Try to aim for 2lbs per day of food. Usually that will equal out to be like 3000 calories a day.
For water carry litter bottles. The best I've found are the Brisk Bottles and the Smart Water Bottles. The powerade/gatorade bottles also work well because they don't really crumple. I'd say you should always leave a town with 2liters of water. For every one liter you'll be able to walk 10 miles comfortably. Make sure your carrying Aquamira and Iodine pills. Iodine pills are easy to get, Aquamira can be a little bit tricky. Ordering it online takes care of the problem though. It's the best water treatment system there is. I've used everything, and Aquamira is the bomb. Sawyer waterfilter is a close 2nd. Aquamira leaves a faint taste in the water, but only if your sitting there twirling it in your mouth. Sawyer has no after taste. The only issue is that if it gets below freezing then you have to make sure it's somewhere warm so any water inside of it wont freeze and fuck it up.
Later tonight I'm going to add some more onto everything. Do you have any more questions? I'll be so down to answer them.
So what do you use to keep your bacon grease in? [R]5 years, 5 months agoOfcourseitstrash posted submission on xxketo.
May 4, 2014
I had a tiny little jar, but it broke. So now that I am actually working on saving my grease, how do you all do it? Stoneware container, mason jar, coffee can with lid....
and how do you filter it?
What to do with leftover Bacon grease/fat? [R]5 years, 6 months agoMsKim posted submission on Frugal.
March 24, 2014
I've been cooking some bacon lately and storing the leftover grease in an old cleaned out pickle jar and putting it in my fridge. I saw online a few uses for it, but I figure this subreddit probably has the most interesting/useful ways to reuse it. Any ideas?
Save all or only bacon grease? [R]5 years, 7 months agoCycoPenguin posted submission on keto.
Feb. 23, 2014
Should I be saving/reusing only bacon grease or all grease for my Keto recipes?
Help with cookset? [R]5 years, 8 months agoThexorretor posted submission on Ultralight.
Feb. 16, 2014
I'm looking for a cookset that
- holds ~1L
- comes with a pot and cup
- holds a 220g isobutane fuel cannister and small stove
- dirt cheap
Tent and more for ~$200? [R]5 years, 9 months agoDec. 27, 2013
Dec. 29, 2013
> Weight isn't a huge issue with me, I'm young and pretty strong with more energy than I know what to do with.
Sure, but that's no reason to get weigh yourself down unnecessarily when lighter options cost the same and work as well. You could use that energy to go further and do more rather than carry more weight. I'm in a similar position to you, young and building up gear, but I've decided that since I'm starting pretty much fresh I'd go the lightweight route where practical. It's a lot easier to do it right the first time than go back and upgrade everything, and I've found that it doesn't really cost any more than traditional gear.
The tent I went with was the GoLite Shangri-La 2. At 1.5 lbs, it's 1/3 the weight of the Half Dome with just as much interior space. A touch cheaper, too. I like the floorless design because I prefer to cowboy camp if the weather is nice. This way my groundsheet, bug net, and rain protection are separate, so I can use only what the conditions call for. I also like being able to wear my shoes inside the tent.
My filter is a Sawyer Squeeze that I got from an REI garage sale for $5. Can't beat that. If I was buying new, I'd save some money and get the Mini.
Trekking poles aren't necessary, but I find they make a big difference, especially on steep terrain (both up and down). I got a pair from Amazon for $20. They probably won't last forever and aren't the lightest, but I didn't want to spend much not knowing if I would like the concept. Apparently Costco has some pretty nice ones for $30, I'd go with those if I were to do it again.
I hear good things about Fountainhead rods if you want to try out Tenkara fly fishing on a budget.
Check out REI garage sales. I got my sleeping bag there, along with a bunch of other small stuff.
Oh, and I know a new pack isn't your number one priority now, but I just used my GoLite Quest 80L for the first time and it freaking rocks. Super comfortable, huge capacity, the hipbelt transfers weight perfectly, and it weighs very little for a high-capacity, full-featured pack. I decided not to go ultralight here because I wanted the extra space for winter backpacking, and I'm really happy with this choice. It beats the crap out of the North Face Terra 65 I had before. That thing went back to REI after one trip.
Need some help downsizing the weight. [R]6 years agomreo posted submission on backpacking.
Oct. 14, 2013
I have been lurking in here for a while and have started backpacking for about the last 2 1/2 years. In the past few months I have fine tuned my gear down but would like to reduce it further in weight. Currently I'm around 23-24 lb dry and about 28-29 with 1L of water, 1/2L of whiskey, Mountain home freeze dried and some home made dehadraded food for 3-4 days. I live in the PNW about 1/2 way between Mt Reinier/cascades and The Olimpics so that's were I usually go, I usually do 3-4 day hikes. My current setup accounts for full wet Seattle wet conditions so in summer the wight goes down due to the unnecessary cold or rain gear/clothing. Any ideas on what I should drop / add / replace to add value/contingencies while reducing wight? I'm still a novice and feel like i don't have my contingencies covered well. Currently I go with a buddy or two, but i want to get more into solo.
Main List: Osprey Kestrel 48 Pack Big Agnes Copper Spur UL1 Tent Tavec homemade tarp for the tent underside Big Agnes 15deg synthetic sleep bag Therm-a-Rest Z Lite Sol Sleeping Pad MSR water filter MSR pocket rocket stove 1 or sometimes 2 small canisters of fuel 1L waterbottle that fits the filter Headlamp small knife "work" gloves while bushwacking compass small MSR SS cooking pot wit basic plastic recyclable utensils.
For safety/comfort I have: Bear spray - small Some duct tape (crushed) extra batteries for head lamp thin but strong rope Small aluminum water bottle for whiskey or whatnot :) matches / lighter fire starter tabs few garbage bags some basic condiments like mustard and mayo, sugar and tea packets bug spray medic kit with some of the basics/itch cream/ anti histamine pills etc TP rain fly for backpack compass / local map / whistle
Clotheing: Basics such as a few t-shirts, socks, layers, fleece, long johns. Mostly cheap stuff, nothing interesting. A heavy duty north face shell (originally my snowboarding shell but have adopted it for backpacking) solid waterproof snowboarding pants (not a shell, but very close, has a little insulation) for the downpours or sudden cold snap.
I currently use 3 waterproof compression bags: Medium bag holds sleeping bag and snowboarding pants Small bag holds dry/clean clothing Ex-small bag holds tent and jacket shell
Its always fun to look at other peoples setups on here so I hope I can learn something from all of you seasoned pros while providing some entertainment at the same time.
Oct. 15, 2013
If I can chime in on the cookware stuff. I agree with u/rusty075 about switching to aluminum as a good way to save weight.
Traildesigns has some pretty inexpensive aluminum cookware. Decent stuff for under thirty dollars.
Im playing around with the stanco grease pot that I read about on an ultralight forum. Its 9 dollars and seems to work just fine for boiling water. Switching from aluminum might save you half a pound.
Best place to buy survival/camping/ultralight gear? [R]6 years agos_s posted submission on Survival.
Oct. 8, 2013
I'm looking at picking up more gear for a trip in early november and was wondering where the best/cheapest places are for buying gear online or in an outlet store. (Also if you could point me to the best 20-40 degree ultralight sleeping bag that'd be awesome too)
Also- How valuable is a wilderness first responder course (Sponsored by SOLO) compared to a basic wilderness first aid class, I want to know because its expensive as hell but if its worth it I want to do it.
Edit: Thanks for all the responses guys, you all have been really helpful.
Another Edit: Just found an awesome pack for my upcoming trip for half off on Campmor. Excited as F***. (Jansport Katahdin 60L)
Oct. 8, 2013
Do you want the best or the cheapest?
The best gear is found at specialty cottage manufacturers like Tarptent, Zpacks, enlightened equipment or Luke's Ultralight. It is rarely cheap.
The best deals on gear are usually found either buying lightly used stuff like that found on ebay, craigslist or in backpackinglight.com's forums or by making your own gear (see /r/myog ) if you happen to be handy with a sewing machine.
You also can get great "deals" by creatively appropriating items from non-outdoor uses. Using a stanco greasepot or a fosters beercan as a pot, or using DIY aluminum alcohol stove are fantastic and light pieces of gear that are practically free.[/edit]
The absolute cheapest gear can be found at walmart. It will not be ultralight, durable or maybe even worthwhile.
Starting from scratch! - Given $750, how would you buy EVERYTHING you need for a 3 day summer trip in the northeast US? [R]6 years, 3 months agos_s posted submission on Ultralight.
July 2, 2013
I (M21, located in Ithaca, NY, 6ft 135lbs) want to start camping and hiking. Also, being my age, I don't have a lot of 'general things' that aren't my parents' (like cooking stuff, tools, etc). Therefore, I'm pretty much starting from scratch.
Specifics: Let's not include food in the budget, and you can assume I have regular-person clothing (cotton shirts, boots that probably aren't real outdoor worthy, running shoes, etc). Lastly, I've done research on tent vs hammock vs tarp and I believe I want to get a tent. Finally, I'm very heavily leaning towards building the cat food stove, so that won't cost any money.
Also, the trips I'm going on will mostly likely be with my girlfriend, so if that affects any of your choices (specifically, a 2 person tent), can you let me know both the solo and the 2 person options?
Edit: And if you recommend making a certain piece of gear, definitely let me know.
July 3, 2013
Philosophy: spend as much money as you can on the best Big 3 you can. Leave worrying about shaving grams with titanium mugs and other small shit until you get bored and you budget is bigger. :)
Big 3: $610
- Tarptent double rainbow - $275
- Enlightened equipment - RevX 40 - $180
- ULA CDT - $135
- Thremarest Ridgerest SOlite (Torso length) - $20
- Stanco Greasepot: $10
- Tritan LMF spork: $2
- Supercat stove: Free
- Aluminum foil windscreen: free +effort
- Reflectix pot cozy: $10 + effort
- Bic mini: $0.50
- Waterbottles: 2x 1L Kroger-brand generic smart water bottles: $2
First Aid: $32
- Scentless Zinc oxide creme: $5
- Moleskins: $2
- Dr. Bronners unscented baby-mild soap: $5
- Band-aids: free
- Ducktape: free
- ibuprofen: free
- Imodium: free
- 100% DEET: $5
- sunscreen: free
- Aqua Mira tablets: $15
- baseball cap: free
- bandana: free
- synthetic t-shirt from walmart: $5
- dri-ducks 100 wt fleece $32
- nylon gym shorts: free
- running shoes: free
- socks (2 pair): $27
- garbage bag poncho: free
base weight : ~10lbs
Let's talk about...bacon grease. [R]6 years, 6 months ago92235 posted submission on keto.
April 7, 2013
what's the best way to filter and store it? How long do you keep it? And finally: what is your favorite way to use it?
Lightweight, non-instant coffee? [R]6 years, 6 months agos_s posted submission on CampingandHiking.
April 5, 2013
I am planning some camping and backpacking trips. Trying to keep it as light as possible, with two adults and a two year-old. I think I have gotten all food down to dry items, but what about coffee?
Being a pretty big coffee snob, I am finding it hard to compromise here. Are there small pots that can be used to boil water? Maybe even 16 oz or less?