Parenting With Love And Logic (Updated and Expanded Edition) Hardcover – April 19, 2006

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Parenting With Love And Logic (Updated and Expanded Edition) Hardcover – April 19, 2006

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Single mom raising an entitled and ungrateful 6 year old, how do I discipline her without losing my mind? [R]

8 months, 1 week agomjolnir76 posted submission on Parenting.
March 25, 2019

I’m a single mom, her dad was absent for the first 3 years and he’s involved now but really just in a convenient “when he has time to parent” way, I have her 100% of the time.

I overcompensated by giving her everything she wanted and keeping her happy bc of my guilt of raising her without her dad/being a working mom and not always being “mentally present” as I suffer from depression, which I’m being treated for with therapy and medication.

My thing is I try to get her to listen to me but she doesn’t, she’s not a bad kid, she’s sweet and a great kid, but I can’t get her to eat her food, even her favorites without constant nagging from me, she refuses to sleep in her own bed and/or sleep early and will cry and scream all night if I try to make her stay in her room. I can’t even get her to clean up after herself, basics such as putting away her shoes, etc. I’m going crazy, I’ve tried an allowance, I’ve tried time outs, nothing works.

I adore her but I’m so afraid I’m raising an entitled kid who thinks everyone is here to please her, help anyone? I’m exhausted and resentful.

8 months, 1 week agomjolnir76 posted comment on Parenting.
March 25, 2019

Amazon link below. There are several books as well as workshops. However, I wouldn’t recommend the workshop. It basically regurgitated the books. I left halfway through and ended up requesting a refund.

Love & Logic

New Father, seeking reading advice [R]

2 years, 7 months agoDronedAgain posted submission on Christianity.
April 8, 2017

Hello friends!

First a quick testimony, my wife and I had a troubled pregnancy. We had to pass from doctor to doctor, with one suggesting we get an immediate surgery or risk losing the baby, while a second (and third) opinion said that we needed the surgery much earlier and that if we did it now we might lose the baby.

My wife took bed rest for 2 months and was able to deliver a healthy baby girl! Praise God!

That all said, I'm now a new father and would like to see if anyone can recommend any Christian literature for new fathers. I'd be open to non-Christian stuff too if it's particularly good.

Thank you!

2 years, 7 months agoDronedAgain posted on Christianity.
April 9, 2017

For you: Parenting with Love and Logic.

For the baby: The 20th-Century Children's Book Treasury: Picture Books and Stories to Read Aloud. Every children's book you'll ever need, and it covers stories for many ages. This is out of print, so get it while you can. Get two, so you have a backup.

For both of you as she grows in faith: The Message (New Testament)

Edit: It dawns on me the recommendation of The Message might seem odd. I threw it in because it's a great way for kids to start reading the Bible since the language is in modern vernacular.

[TX] I am the non-custodial parent of a 3yo whose mom just went to prison and is now living in a drug den. [UPDATE 1] [R]

2 years, 11 months agoinfinitivephrase posted submission on legaladvice.
Dec. 13, 2016

Firstly, thank you everyone for the advice and encouragement during my first post. Since then, the following has transpired:

  • I have been assigned a CPS case worker.
  • CPS finally found the husband who currently has power of attorney for prison mom and was 'watching' the kid. He was in Midland (3 hours away) doing meth and left the kid with his sister.
  • CPS demanded the address of the sister and he would not give it. They asked for a urine sample and he gave one; failing for meth.
  • My wife and I have done a shitfuckton of soul searching, asking ourselves if we're prepared to take this kid in. We have agreed that the answer is yes but I'm scared shitless. We don't have any kids and have never been around toddlers let alone been responsible for one not dying.
  • CPS has apparently discovered the address of the sister who has possession of the kid and they plan to visit the home tomorrow and plan on removing him.
  • I might possibly have a 3 year old on my doorstep tomorrow I've never met but that we want to have the life he deserves.
  • The road to sole custody is going to be tough and I really can't afford a lawyer but I plan to take this on very aggressively. The way the mother has allowed the kid to live and the danger she's put him in is ridiculous and she will never be anything but a busted dope whore so I will not be very forgiving on my end game.

I think that's about all for now.

TL;DR No kid today. Kid tomorrow. Lost, scared, hopeful. What do I do?!

EDIT: Holy crap you guys, this response has been overwhelming. Thank you and I will post another update when this thing goes down!

EDIT 2: I had NO idea reddit had so many feels towards children, and you guys have given us a crowd-sources instruction manual on how to make this happen.

EDIT 3: I feel as though I have written a lot of this in 'me' perspective and not 'we' perspective, so I would just like to mention that my beautiful wife u/smashtrix is the real saint here. She has welcomed this situation with open arms from day one, and for someone who never wanted kids that is pretty bad ass, amiright? This is a team effort and I couldn't do it without her!

EDIT 4: A lot of peopke asked us to create registries and we did but that is against the law on this sub, and understandably so, so went ahead and edited those out. Sorry Mods!

EDIT 5: CPS has to now wait on a judge to sign off on the removal, which we were under the impression would be done today, but might take a few days. The mom's husband has signed an agreement stating that he will not make contact with the boy, and he is at the husband's mom's house until the removal hearing is official. I'm glad there's systems in place, but sometimes it's frustrating to be on this side of it.

EDIT 6: Gold, neat!

EDIT 7: Okay, y'all have have been AMAZING and we can't thank you enough for the support, advice and wisdom. I have accomplished absolutely nothing at work today, so I'm gonna go tend to real life and start making our new family happen. I will post updates as soon as I have something meaty to report.

2 years, 11 months agoinfinitivephrase posted on legaladvice.
Dec. 18, 2016

It's Parenting With Love and Logic. That's the basic, central text. They have other books, and they're all good, but start with this one. It gets away from punishment/reward and works on building intrinsic motivation. It's all about consistency, making a child's world make more logical sense, and maintaining respect, dignity, and empathy for the child (thus showing the child how people are supposed to interact).

I am so tired dealing with my 10 year old [R]

2 years, 11 months agoDec. 15, 2016


2 years, 11 months agoCooCooCoco posted on Parenting.
Dec. 15, 2016

The book Love and Logic is great for this. Stop being his doormat OP. It's bad for you and it will have consequences for him when he's older. He needs to know it's unacceptable to treat people this way and you need to stop shielding him from the consequences of behaving like a shithead.

Is it illegal to hit my kids [R]

3 years, 3 months agoAug. 8, 2016


3 years, 3 months agocinemashow posted on NoStupidQuestions.
Aug. 8, 2016

I saw this guy on PBS one time. He is brilliant and uses evidence based theories of child rearing. I got the book but my kids were already older...and Ive given it to many other new parents. It;ll give you a good base. And know one thing: kids understand the value of your time and attention and your love...fuck all matters to them outside of that.

LPT: Parents, Babysitter, Daycare worker? Save your Sanity. Instead of always telling your child (especially toddlers) what to do, give them two choices that provide the same outcome. [R]

6 years, 7 months agoShenanigans99 posted submission on LifeProTips.
April 11, 2013

We all know kids, especially toddlers, when told what to do often will do the exact opposite or start having a tantrum. Parents (or anyone who watches a toddler) understand that when you ask a toddler to do the simplest task it can become a major ordeal. So instead of telling them what to do, give them two options instead.

Children love knowing they have some control over what they are doing. It gives them a chance to use their thinking and reasoning skills in a positive way. So instead of saying, "Please put on your pajamas and get ready for bed." You could try, "Which pajamas would you like to wear to bed tonight, your nightgown or your Dora jammies?"

This concept can be used for almost anything. I started using this approach and it truly was life changing. It has become second nature and my daughter loves knowing that she is making decisions instead of simply being told what to do.

Source: Just a parent using trial and error. Hopefully less error.

Edit #1: Yes, you can do this with adults also. Thanks for pointing this out. I use it on my friends and family all of the time. It's great when trying to get a group to decide on a restaurant to eat at.

Edit #2: Not all parenting techniques work 100% of the time. What works for one family may not work for another. There are plenty of comments where people have had success and failures with this method. If you are a parent or child care giver you learn through trial and error. Good luck to you all.

Thanks reddit, this is a great discussion and that includes the good and the bad. I'll do my best to respond to those who asked me direct questions. Nice to make the front page and share LPT's with people.

6 years, 7 months agoShenanigans99 posted on LifeProTips.
April 11, 2013

This is one of the core principles of the book Parenting with Love and Logic. Great book for parents! I know several who have used it successfully and plan to implement the techniques with my own kids when they're old enough.