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Back pain book from last podcast [R]

6 months, 3 weeks agobabybrat98 posted submission on h3h3productions.
March 25, 2019

Hey did anyone figure out which book they were talking about on the last podcast? There are like 6 different ones from that author. I want to get it for my mom

6 months, 3 weeks agobabybrat98 posted comment on h3h3productions.
March 25, 2019

I believe it’s this.

They said the name of the book, and as Ethan was talking over her, (as he always does, gotta love him) Hila kind of mumbled “by John E...” and that’s all I heard. This should be it though.

Maintaining frame after serious injury [R]

12 months agoTebulus posted submission on askMRP.
Oct. 15, 2018

Apparently, I am a "value leech," but did not see this addressed before.

To cut to the chase, I seriously injured my back. Can't lift shit, can't bend, can't pickup kids or groceries, can't do home maintenance. How the hell do you maintain frame under such circumstances. Can't do all the shit that makes me a man and captain of the ship.

I can tell wife is already losing respect for me. I'm doing all the shit the doc says to do and am trying to stay as active as possible, but, the fact remains, I can't do most of the shit I used to. And, to be honest, I feel useless.

So, the question posed is how to apply MRP principles in such circumstances?

12 months agoTebulus posted comment on askMRP.
Oct. 15, 2018

Stay busy and productive as much as possible within the constraints of your primary goal being "heal my back as quickly and efficiently as possible". You cant fight her unconscious perception so if you are a temporary invalid rest assured she is silently judging you in your weakest most painful moments. Protip: that is okay.

So four things: 1. Be attractive and don't be unattractive. 2. Prioritize healing. 3. Try to internalize that physical ability is a single puzzle piece on a very large puzzle and that you can still make a woman attracted to you and lead her while disabled/invalid. 4. Delegate.

Also, a question: How would you behave if this was your life from now on? Are you fucked? Or can you make it work? Do that.

Also I have heard people with chronic back pain say this is the shit and it cures you permanently: https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

Sinking Deeper Into Your 30's As You Feel Your Youth Slip Away starterpack [R]

1 year, 2 months agosurefirepigeon posted submission on starterpacks.
Aug. 12, 2018
1 year, 2 months agosurefirepigeon posted comment on starterpacks.
Aug. 13, 2018

Read this, I am 21 and had a very similar experience to you. This book solved it. https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

Back pain [R]

1 year, 5 months agoFluffyPurpleThing posted submission on 40something.
April 27, 2018

So I've had increasingly bad lower back pain for nearly 2 decades. Ive tried physicians and specialists and physios and chiros and accupuncture.

I just like to ask on different forums once in a while if anyone has any experience with a treatment , procedure, whatever that works.

Thanks all

1 year, 5 months agoFluffyPurpleThing posted comment on 40something.
April 27, 2018

I don't know how to write this without sounding like a weirdo, so I'll just write it:

I started having back pain as a young adult. Doctors couldn't find anything and no medical or alternative treatment helped. I'd spend weeks in excruciating pain and no one could help me.

Then someone gave me this book. And I swear: by the time I finished reading it, I was healed. This is the book. It works like magic. I still get back pains, but not as frequently and definitely not as bad. Stretching, strengthening the core muscles and taking OTC pain medications are all I need now.

Me: My mother is small, helpless and broken. My Therapist: What if being small, helpless and broken is how she expresses her power? Me: Mind blown [R]

1 year, 5 months agoHappyTodayIndeed posted submission on raisedbyborderlines.
April 19, 2018

Context: My mother is now an elderly uBPD waif. Growing up she was a witch/waif. I have felt responsible for her happiness (unhappiness) all my life, and it didn’t that I was the scapegoat growing up. Last year, I discovered I am likely RBB. I have been in therapy for childhood trauma for the past several months, mostly because I want to recover from chronic pain and think it is caused by repressed feelings about emotional, verbal and some physical abuse by my mother when I was growing up.

Today, I was struggling in an EMDR session with my therapist.

We were continuing to work on a memory (or cluster of memories; the number of times is fuzzy) when my mother dramatically left my sister and me when we were small. This involved her packing her bags, screaming at us that we didn't love her, so she might as well leave, then driving off into the night. We didn't know if she would come back. It was devastating.

Sometimes she would change her mind if my sister and I cried hard enough or begged her to stay or told her how much we “weally, weally, weally” loved her. But, if she didn't believe us, she'd say, "You love your father so much/more than me, so I guess you are better off with him," and THEN she'd leave.

I only remember her running away once during the day; other times were at night. I think night abandonment was more frequent because that is when she drank wine.

Anyway, during my last EMDR session and again today I couldn't get to a neutral place in processing abandonment memories because I kept getting stuck in sadness-- because I kept seeing her as small, helpless and broken. Being stuck prevented me from moving on to other feelings, so I could process the memories.

I am guessing--and my therapist has said—that I really, really need to feel sad for ME, and to feel angry at her. Because objectively speaking, that would be a normal and healthy response to abuse.

Me: My mother is helpless and broken. I can't be angry at her. She couldn't help it.

My Therapist: What if being small, helpless and broken is how she expresses her power?

Me: Mind blown.

Like, literally: Mind blown. I lost my shit. If she used her helplessness to exercise power over me, she is vicious. Who does that to their children? Who makes her own children feel sad and horrible to get what SHE wants from them? I would rather die than make my kids unhappy. She did it on PURPOSE TO BE POWERFUL??!!

I dunno. Typing this out it doesn't sound earth shattering. But I felt something shift as EMDR continued. If my mother is more accurately an object of my anger (because she is calculatedly vicious) than an object of my pity (because she is helpless), I COULD feel sad for myself. I could also feel very, very angry with her. This sounds like intellectual processing. It wasn't. I UNDERSTOOD at a level I haven't before. In my body, if that makes sense.

So the rest of the EMDR session was spent dealing with grief and anger. By the end of the session I could picture the image of her driving away feeling completely neutral. It was like I was watching a movie. This is huge progress, because when we started working on this memory (memories) two sessions ago, just thinking about it made me sob. But now I realize that although I was crying then, I was crying for her, not me. Today, I got to cry for ME.

Also, and don't laugh at me, but towards the end of the session—to deal with anger--I had donned a full protective full suit of armor. My therapist suggested armor because my protective God bubble wasn’t working for anger; it only worked for sadness/grief. Then I got an image of being surrounded by a gaggle of Renaissance-era angels wearing armor. I had an army of protection! I’m not nuts, I didn’t really think there were angels: I was just picturing in my mind’s eye the angel warriors you see in religious paintings from that era. I started smiling because I was in fact LEADING the army, like a regular Joan of Arc. And we were capable of kicking some serious Mom ass.

I felt very powerful. It was great. I still feel great.

EMDR is weird. FUCK you, Mom, that I now need such weird voodoo to undo the damage you wrought.

That is all.

1 year, 5 months agoHappyTodayIndeed posted comment on raisedbyborderlines.
April 20, 2018

The Science of How Our Minds and Our Bodies Converge in the Healing of Trauma (article) https://www.brainpickings.org/2016/06/20/the-body-keeps-the-score-van-der-kolk/

Healing Back Pain, John Sarno. Look for the most recent, updated version. It isn't only about back pain. It's about somatic pain. I just finished reading it this week. I've been following the recommendations and feel better than I have in years. I feel loose and comfortable in my body. https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

Back in Control: A Surgeon’s Roadmap Out of Chronic Pain (He has a personal history of childhood trauma and chronic pain) https://www.amazon.com/Back-Control-Surgeons-Roadmap-Chronic/dp/0988272997/ref=sr11?ie=UTF8&qid=1517499746&sr=8-1&keywords=back+in+control Website here: http://www.backincontrol.com/ And here: https://www.drbredesen.com/

The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma (He also has a history of childhood trauma; he is involved in the struggle for official recognition of C-PTSD) https://www.amazon.com/Body-Keeps-Score-Healing-Trauma/dp/0143127748

The Body Never Lies - The Lingering Effects of Cruel Parenting (Alice Miller, so not new, but good) https://www.amazon.com/Body-Never-Lies-Lingering-Parenting/dp/0393328635

Good luck!

Therapy with a trauma-informed therapist helped a lot. The more I talked, and the less I see or interact with my mother--at my therapist's recommendation--the less pain I have had.

After a few months I started EMDR. My body feel different. I can't explain it to you actually. But I do have less pain.

I have been through a lot of conventional treatments and am not inclined to believe in "alternative" approaches to disease. I was very, very angry early in my pain journey when a few doctors suggested that I see a psychotherapist. I thought they were shuffling me off because they couldn't' help me, and that pyschotherapy was to learn to live in constant pain. I didn't know it could END the pain.

Older people who lift(ed), what affect did it have on your body in the long term? [R]

1 year, 6 months agoLiberatedhusky posted submission on Fitness.
April 16, 2018

I’m 23 and took up strength training about a year ago. I’m wondering how older adults feel it affected their aging and what advice they have about caring for their bodies.

Edit: Thanks for the responses! You’re all making me feel positive and encouraged.

1 year, 6 months agoLiberatedhusky posted comment on Fitness.
April 17, 2018

Absolutely agree, I remember having back pain for a long time, that has all gone away since I've started lifting. Back pain is a result of a weak back a lot of the time. There's even a book that says all your back pain is made up bullshit.

Chronic sciatic nerve pain has left me incapable of getting any local jobs.. Help! [R]

1 year, 11 months agoskipthedrive posted submission on WorkOnline.
Nov. 13, 2017

So I have had chronic sciatic pain for about 3 years. It's debilitating and has left me quitting my day jobs .

I have been looking for a job that will allow me to have a standing desk (like I have at my home) but I haven't been able to attain one.

I'm 20 and I have no actual qualifications other than my High school diploma and previous work exp.

*However: I do have extensive undocumented experience with graphic design & marketing/eCommerce.

*Graphic design: I self taught myself photoshop when I was 13, I've been working with t ever since. Most of that knowledge came from creating logos for gamers and youtubers.

In addition I've taught myself adobe after effects as well as a bit of cinema 4D (3D modeling software).

Ive created a couple YouTube channels and I've therefore learned how to do a little bit of motion art in order to create intros and visual effects.

*Marketing: I've started learning a lot about Facebook ads and marketing as well as started a few unsuccessful online stores through shopify.

I know a lot, but considering I have no job, I have no money to actually apply my knowledge.


My question for you guys is: Is there anyway to make something out of this?

I find freelance extremely competitive for someone without an actual portfolio.

Thanks in advance, I love you all :-)

1 year, 10 months agoskipthedrive posted comment on WorkOnline.
Nov. 20, 2017

I'm going to give you a different recommendation than what you're seeking...

I also dealt with (and am still dealing slightly with) sciatica. Do yourself a favor and read up a bit on Dr. John Sarno. Here is one of his books that was recommended to me by a friend, which I highly recommend looking into. Some celebs (i.e. Howard Stern) have endorsed him.

Best of luck

Post AMA Discussion - Sherri Papini's Client [R]

1 year, 11 months agogreeny_cat posted submission on thepapinis.
Nov. 15, 2017

This thread is being opened for discussion of the AMA. Feel free to discuss anything you find interesting.

Thank you again to u/fivethreezero for his great AMA!

1 year, 11 months agogreeny_cat posted comment on thepapinis.
Nov. 16, 2017

This book does wonders for back pain, it actually cures it - I know it sounds unbelievable, but I tried it on myself, my relatives and coworkers, and everybody got relief:

https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

Healing Back Pain: The Mind-Body Connection by John E. Sarno

Chronic sciatic nerve pain has left me incapable of getting any local jobs.. Help! [R]

1 year, 11 months agoTheNob1eCow posted submission on WorkOnline.
Nov. 13, 2017

So I have had chronic sciatic pain for about 3 years. It's debilitating and has left me quitting my day jobs .

I have been looking for a job that will allow me to have a standing desk (like I have at my home) but I haven't been able to attain one.

I'm 20 and I have no actual qualifications other than my High school diploma and previous work exp.

*However: I do have extensive undocumented experience with graphic design & marketing/eCommerce.

*Graphic design: I self taught myself photoshop when I was 13, I've been working with t ever since. Most of that knowledge came from creating logos for gamers and youtubers.

In addition I've taught myself adobe after effects as well as a bit of cinema 4D (3D modeling software).

Ive created a couple YouTube channels and I've therefore learned how to do a little bit of motion art in order to create intros and visual effects.

*Marketing: I've started learning a lot about Facebook ads and marketing as well as started a few unsuccessful online stores through shopify.

I know a lot, but considering I have no job, I have no money to actually apply my knowledge.


My question for you guys is: Is there anyway to make something out of this?

I find freelance extremely competitive for someone without an actual portfolio.

Thanks in advance, I love you all :-)

1 year, 11 months agoTheNob1eCow posted comment on WorkOnline.
Nov. 15, 2017

I'm sorry to hear that my friend. That's honestly really unacceptable of your doctor!? Might want to consider finding a new one. My doctor has not hesitated with my pain. Not that he has helped too much but if I ask for something he supports me. Definitely hope you find some help! The books I keep getting recommended seem promising! - book

Boyfriend [22M] has a herniated disc, has been suffering for 3 months now. [R]

1 year, 11 months agoGetOffMyLawn_ posted submission on ChronicPain.
Oct. 23, 2017

Sad story / rant.

My boyfriend, Will, is a college student who would bartend nights to pay his bills. We've been dating for 8 or so months, and have been through a lot in that time. In July 2017, the bar he worked at closed. He frantically tried finding a new job, but eventually settled going back to his old job (a chain restaurant) to help cover bills while he looks for something better. By this time he depleted all his saved funds, paying for all his bills and such. Meanwhile, I was in the process of moving into a new apartment complex, where he offered to come help me move. Him and another one of our friends helped me lift my heavy ass couch into my third floor apartment complex. The night after, he was complaining about feeling sore, while our other friend kept joking that Will "lifted with his back instead of his legs". Turns out he did that exact thing.

A few weeks later, my birthday comes around and I ask if it's okay if we go away for the weekend. I cover all the costs, which I don't mind at all because I love him and I wanted to have fun with him on my birthday. But while this doesn't bother me, Will is clearly feeling saddened that he can't afford me a gift / pay for anything. To compromise, I told him that if he really wants to "pay me back", he can be the one to drive us to our vacation spot (in the mountains, a few hours away). So in August, we drive away and have a great weekend. We go hiking, go to our favorite breweries, drink and dance, etc. Then on the morning of my birthday, as we're getting in the car to grab breakfast and make our trek back home, Will suddenly can't sit down. He is shaking, sweating, crying. His body is giving away the pain he is feeling, but he keeps insisting he wants to take me to breakfast for my birthday. I start crying, because I know he's trying to play off his pain as nothing, for my expense. I convince him to let me drive, and I take us home. We stop to grab fast food on the way home, and he tries to pay... and his card declines. He tries to sit down while we wait for the food, and he can't. I break down crying, confused to what is happening.

We get home, and he rests for a few days. He has to sleep on the floor, because he hurts when he lays in his bed. I try to comfort him by bringing him food and trying to convince him to go to the doctor. We schedule him an appointment with a spinal health physician, and two days before his appointment I get fired from my job. I spent that night crying in his arms, lying on the floor with him for hours. There's nothing we can do.

After two days of crying, I go out and find a new job. They have me work part-time (eventually full time), giving me time to take Will to the doctor. They say he has a herniated disc (L5) at 22 years old. Fuck.

I take him to physical therapy all throughout August and September. No real improvement. His mom gives what little money she has to him in order to pay for an MRI, in hopes to schedule him for an epidural. The doctor takes one look at his MRI and says that she suggests going straight to surgery. Will practically faints.

We take him to the surgeon, who says that he'd rather have him get an epidural before surgery. Meanwhile, Will is getting slowly better. He can sleep in his bed, walk further before the pain sets in, can bend his toes, down to one painkiller a day. He agrees that an epidural is the answer. He tries to schedule it, and gets put off for two weeks. When he successfully schedules it, we find out it's going to be $600...$600 he doesn't have, BECAUSE HE CAN'T WORK :( oh, and he can't file for unemployment because he was able to work 2 fucking shifts at his old job before all of this happened...... fuck us, right?

I offer to help pay, he refuses because he doesn't want to "be a financial burden on me". His mom says she's going to help him cover the cost, but she needs to wait for her paycheck. So Will cancels his appointment. Now we're in limbo.

In the meantime, he has been using his student loans towards rent (he had to drop his classes because he can't go to any of them). His mom is giving him all the money she can, but she's a single mom on a schoolteacher salary. He outwardly refuses to let me help him financially. I try to take care of him anyway he will let me, from driving him to appointments, buying and making him food, spending all my free time with him...

But it's been three months. I want him to be better so, so badly. I bought us tickets to his favorite band in January, joking that it's his "incentive to get healthy". But every day I get scared that he isn't going to get better... I don't know what else to do.

Edit: Holy shit, I never expected as many responses as I have gotten. Will and I are super thankful for all of your kind words and advice. I'll try to respond to as many as I can! :)

1 year, 11 months agoGetOffMyLawn_ posted comment on ChronicPain.
Oct. 23, 2017

I have to agree with /u/Old-Goat. A lot of people are walking around with herniated discs and no pain, and a lot of people are in pain without any obvious malformation to account for it. It's quite possible to have surgery for the disc and have no improvement. Do get a second opinion before going ahead with surgery. It's quite possible he is having a muscle spasm due to the disc pressing on a nerve. And it's quite possible to have pain after the thing that caused the pain gets fixed. It's like pain becomes its own reason for pain.

In addition to /u/Old-Goat 's recommendations I would ask about getting some heavy duty muscle relaxers. Warmth, stretching, massage, are all good. Guided relaxation exercises and/or meditation can help relax tense muscles too.

A friend has bad neck/back pain and has had epidurals. Now he vapes CBD oil. CBD oil is legal in all 50 states. It ain't cheap but it controls his pain with no high.

And, this hasn't worked for me or my friends, but some people swear by John Sarno's book on back pain. His theory is that it is psychsomatic. It's an interesting read.

Working with chronic pain [R]

1 year, 11 months agoOct. 22, 2017

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1 year, 11 months agoleonxtravis posted comment on college.
Oct. 22, 2017

Crooked: Outwitting the Back Pain Industry and Getting on the Road to Recovery - anyone else read this? [R]

2 years, 1 month agostrandthechinahand posted submission on backpain.
Sept. 2, 2017

Hi all,

I just started reading Crooked by Cathryn Jakobson Ramin.

https://www.amazon.com/Crooked-Outwitting-Industry-Getting-Recovery/dp/0062641786

Very interesting so far, I'm just wondering if anyone else has read it and what their thoughts are? It seems a fairly damning indictment of the back pain industry (in the USA at least), but I'm wondering if her objectivity has been impacted by years of unsuccessful treatment for her own back pain.

2 years, 1 month agostrandthechinahand posted on backpain.
Sept. 4, 2017

Cool is that this book?

https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

I'll add it to my reading list.

Pain Patients Getting Crushed By Pain Píll Crackdown [R]

2 years, 1 month agobpthrx posted submission on WayOfTheBern.
Aug. 24, 2017
2 years, 1 month agobpthrx posted on WayOfTheBern.
Aug. 25, 2017

Are you open to the concept of psychogenic pain? I was in constant pain for 10 years until I read this book (Actually listened to the audio book). It cured me in about 6 months. (For me it was bodywide fibromyalgia & tendonitis, not back pain, but it was psychosomatic in origin)

https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684/ref=sr11?ie=UTF8&qid=1503681372&sr=8-1&keywords=healing+back+pain+by+dr.+john+sarno

The hardest part is getting yourself truly open to the idea

Someone made a Documentary about the doctor, he helped cure Larry David and Howard Stern of their chronic pain problems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ3OL7dIbmg

Federer on Swiss TV: "Have trained for 3 days now, I am on schedule" [R]

2 years, 1 month agoincrediblemonk posted submission on tennis.
Aug. 23, 2017

"I am feeling better, it was a hard week - back pain doesn't just go away over night. I was glad to get a break, be with the family and do exercises. I am walking normally again and have been on the court in the past 3 days. I am on schedule - a couple days ago I didn't know where I would be by this time but as of now I am confident that everything will be ok."

2 years, 1 month agoincrediblemonk posted on tennis.
Aug. 23, 2017

It's not an "injury". https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684/ref=sr11?ie=UTF8&qid=1503539779&sr=8-1&keywords=healing+back+pain+by+dr.+john+sarno

Lower back pain [R]

2 years, 2 months agomsccc posted submission on crossfit.
Aug. 11, 2017

I know almost every person in the world deals with low back pain.. but I'm 22 years old and an EX college athlete. I under stand I have a lot of wear and tear on my body because of playing sports my entire life.. but my back is soooooo bad! I haven't been able to increase any of my lifts for about 6 months now.. I've fixed my form on my lifts and still am getting pain a lot of pain...

I'm like 99% sure my hips are out of sync/alignment being the main cause of my pain. It is visibly noticeable.

If anyone out there has a secret or any sort of stretches anything to get these bad boys back into sync please help!! I tried chiropractic work and it didn't help a lot.

PLEASE I NEED TO NOT BE IN PAIN. Also my life goal is to be a firefighter once I finish school this year so I need my back!

2 years, 2 months agomsccc posted on crossfit.
Aug. 12, 2017

Another possibility: some people carry stress/tension in their low back.

I thought for the longest time I was injured. Started on improving how I handle work stress/emotions and my issues went away.

This book is helpful if you think that might be a cause: https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

Never had back pain [R]

2 years, 2 months agoredbeards posted submission on Sciatica.
July 23, 2017

I have had sciatica for a couple years because of some dumb stuff I did in college. The pain was excruciating but after the first injection it was gone completely for a long time. I had two injections and although they worked, I'm avoiding the third. I was told by my doctor that the injections last other people about 3 months, but I'm going on a year and a half since my last one. This may sound like I'm a dirty hippie, but I don't believe in surgery too much. If it isn't required to be proven better than placebo, I consider it snake oil. The way I see it there are 3 options for this pain. A. Injections B. Surgery C. Ancient herbal medicine I've been trying out C for a little while. I'm convinced that the nerve pain just isn't real. It's not a warning sign, it doesn't mean that you are doing damage to your body, it's just a pinched nerve sending bad signals to your brain. I'm a 22 year old male. I never had back pain associated with the nerve pain but the nerve pain just never goes away. Physical therapy is a scam, just stand up and stretch at home. I know I'm in for the long run, it's coming up on 3 years with the pain. I'm scared it will never go away, I'm young enough that it would have healed if it was going to. Maybe I need a support group for long-term pain management. Anyways whatchu guys think? A, B, or C?

2 years, 2 months agoredbeards posted on Sciatica.
July 23, 2017

I didn't like the approach, but many, many people have been helped by this guy's book. It sounds like you might be open to it.

https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

Anyone else have sesamoid (foot) problems? [R]

2 years, 4 months agoJune 13, 2017

About a year and a half ago, I started having foot problems where there was constant pain under the big toe, specifically with flexion. At that point, I wasn't doing crossfit but was working out almost daily. I just thought it was overuse at the time. A few months later, I joined crossfit and eventually bought Oly shoes (on top of already having a pair of Nanos and Metcons). One day while front squatting in Oly shoes I felt a very sharp pain in that region that had been bothering me. Went to an podiatrist the next week and got several xrays, finding out that I had a fractured sesamoid. I was told I'd be in a Cam Boot for about 6 weeks and reevaluate then.

While in the cam boot, I didn't feel pain there so I continued working out, but scaling movements (no jumping, etc). After the 6 weeks I got more xrays and it still hadn't improved much. After 12 weeks he told me I could stop wearing the cam boot and to come back in if it was still a problem in 2-3 more weeks.

I got back to working out and sure enough it flared right back up. It's manageable - I can jump but it is painful, so I scale the movement for something else. I've been wearing a dancers pad for the last few weeks which provides some absorption. The last time I saw the podiatrist he suggested that I would likely need surgery.

I ended up taking about a month and a half off from physical activity and just started working out again this week, but the pain is still there.

Has anyone else had a lingering problem like this, or have any suggestions? I haven't read a ton of positive things regarding the surgery.

2 years, 4 months agoincrediblemonk posted on crossfit.
June 13, 2017

Even the worst injuries (broken femur) heal in 2 months or less, unless you're very old. Chronic pain is psychosomatic. It's also universal. Everyone past age 30 has some kind of psychosomatic symptom, usually more than 1.

Share ways in which your friends sometimes cause you more stress than it's worth (even if you love them) [R]

2 years, 4 months agoigemoko posted submission on ChronicPain.
June 9, 2017

First of all, I dearly love my friends and miss them. I also realize how important social connection is for both mental and physical health so none of this is to undermine any of that.

BUT I've often come to the realization that depending on your situation, there are ways in which your friends and social circle can sometimes be more trouble or heartache than it's worth, and that when all the pros and cons are considered it may actually be better for the short-term or long-term to stay out of touch. This might be for reasons involving your physical or mental health or both - or it just might be for practical reasons in that you don't have the energy to deal with it while dealing with trying to survive and make ends meet at the same time. The loneliness hurts, yes, but even worse is the stress of interaction with people who seem incapable of getting it, even if they genuinely care about you. Hopefully your friends can understand this when you choose to go into hiding, but if they don't understand it can't be helped as there's no way to force them to understand unless they've gone through what you go through. Knowing this also creates such feelings of loneliness, but again it can't be helped.

Rather than tell the whole story of my own experience in this area, I'd rather just read about other people's experiences with this so that I don't have to feel so alone in this.

EDIT: Thank you for sharing your experiences! As expected, it made me feel less alone in feeling like there are times when using energy on friends isn't worth it - not in a negative sense but simply in a practical sense, in terms of conserving my strength for just managing the day-to-day.

2 years, 4 months agoigemoko posted on ChronicPain.
June 9, 2017

"Oh my gawd I would just curl up in a ball and DIE if I hurt all the time like you!! Anyway, let me tell you about this hike I went on..."

"You can't drink with your medication? Oh it's ok, just have a few, I'd totally be an alcoholic by now HAHH"

"Oh my goodness you poor thing, have you tried [insert naturopathic/homeopathic/other BS here]?"

"You can't really be hurting all the time, have you read this book to get rid of back pain?" (I do not have back pain..)

"Aw you're so boring, you never hang out with us and I miss youuuu"

"It's ok, you'll get better soon, I'm praying for you every day!"

...and many more reasons on why I dread in-person social interaction.

Daily OT June 1st [R]

2 years, 4 months agoAbcroc posted submission on blogsnark.
June 1, 2017

Morning guys, sorry it is late I was convinced I posted it last night. Happy Thursday!

2 years, 4 months agoAbcroc posted on blogsnark.
June 1, 2017

https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

Might be worth a read. It's helped some people I'm close with.

[Letourneau] Steve Kerr: "I can tell you, if you have a back problem, stay away from surgery. I can say that from the bottom of my heart." [R]

2 years, 5 months agoimsoggy posted submission on nba.
April 23, 2017
2 years, 5 months agoimsoggy posted on nba.
April 24, 2017

Do yourself a giant favor & read THIS BOOK before suffering any further or going under the knife. Best $7 you'll ever spend...

Dr Sarno's book has fixed nearly all his readers "chronic" back problems. For me it took just over a week (after 4yrs of nearly crying just to tie my shoes).

*note: nearly 5 stars from 1500 reviews

I feel like dying now that i cant work [R]

2 years, 6 months agomiharuhojo posted submission on bipolar.
March 23, 2017

Basically I thought I could hold down a job. Basically, I cannot.

I really feel like ending it all right now. I'm so weepy and depressed. I feel like my life has no meaning anymore. I got along so well with my coworkers and the kids I worked with brought so much joy to me.

But now I can't work, because physically my body is falling apart. My pain levels are at 6-8 constantly, I'm really stiff, I can barely move at work, I'm always fatigued and I've had a constant migraine. I have fibromyalgia and also another connective tissue disorder.

I'm just so depressed right now and no one seems to understand. I can't bring myself to even tell some of my friends that I've had to quit. Because a lot of them don't know the severity of my physical and mental illnesses and they think I'm just being lazy or a drama queen. And now I have to tell my doctors too :(

I just feel so bad about myself and I feel like my life has no meaning anymore and I just want to die.

2 years, 6 months agomiharuhojo posted on bipolar.
March 23, 2017

Take this with a grain of salt: I had body wide tendonitis and fibromyalgia for ten years. I finally read this book and it cured me of all my pain (this was debilitating, career ending pain).

https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

It sounds like nonsense and I avoided this book for many years.

The premise is that the subconscious mind creates physical pain to distract us from dangerous emotions. Emotions that can result in either physical harm (think suicide) or social harm (think mania).

This worked for me and I tried everything. (It took me about a year to process the ideas and work through my issues). I listened to the audio book. It changed my life. Pain free for 2 years now. I almost killed myself because of this pain

Muscle tension is literally suffocating me. [R]

2 years, 8 months agoFeb. 13, 2017

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2 years, 7 months agodreamgalaxies posted on Anxiety.
Feb. 23, 2017

I came down with extreme muscle tension in my neck and upper back in grad school and it got progressively worse and worse until I finally started therapy this year (5 years later). Even that didn't really help until I read this book: https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

It's a little out of date but the theory is that unconscious emotions and anxiety are causing the muscle tension. I, like you it sounds like, was not very in touch with my internal self and often self-medicated to avoid thinking about it and go about my life. It wasn't until I tried to pay more attention to my feelings that my pain got better...and trust me, I tried everything (massages, injections, acupuncture, chiropractic, etc etc etc)

Sounds kinda woo but if you're running out of options... This was my introduction to the concept, commonly referred to as "Mind-Body Syndrome" or TMS": http://www.tmswiki.org/forum/

Feel better.

ELI5: Why are the worst positions for your joints/muscles the most comfortable? [R]

2 years, 9 months agoLiberatedhusky posted submission on explainlikeimfive.
Jan. 16, 2017

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2 years, 9 months agoLiberatedhusky posted on explainlikeimfive.
Jan. 17, 2017

> Where its gone bad though is some people then have taken this on as a "cure" for back pain etc and its not. Take it as a detailed study into posture and movement and there are definitly things in here that can help / promote good practice.

Considering this Doctor claims all of your back pain is made up and thousands of people have healed themselves with stretches. I'm willing to believe this as at least partially responsible for fixing your chronic back pain.

Could we get a 'STFU Faye Lau' button? [R]

2 years, 9 months agoRangerLee posted submission on thedivision.
Jan. 11, 2017

Hearing her voice makes me want to poop on puppies

2 years, 9 months agoRangerLee posted on thedivision.
Jan. 11, 2017

First off, that sucks.

I have not read this, but a friend of my swears by this book. (no shortage of hurt backs on us veterans) He said his back pain is gone, no surgery and no more pain meds. So I figured I figured I would link it here.

https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

Grandpa bought an old trunk at the Flea Market in South Florida, inside he found signed letters, pictures and more of the late great Arnold Palmer. He paid $5.00 for the old trunk. [R]

2 years, 9 months agoiwastheone posted submission on sports.
Dec. 25, 2016
2 years, 9 months agoiwastheone posted on sports.
Dec. 25, 2016

Opiates are a bitch. Worst scourge ever to hit this country, but that's another topic altogether. Doesn't matter. A drug is a drug is a drug, and if it's effing with your normal life, get the eff off of it as soon as it's medically feasibly/possible. Some doctors are in it for the money writing scripts, most are trying their best to ease your pain. Pain is (hopefully) temporary. depends on the injury, be it physical or mental.

There are ways to deal with physical pain, there is a mind/body connection sometimes. If that's your case, I'd recommend reading Dr. John Sarnoff's books ( https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684 ).

I once worked with an ex-heroin addict, clean and sober when I knew him. While doing the morning drive to a job I struck a match to light my cigarette, and that gave him thoughts of cooking heroin in a spoon. I asked him what was so great about that shit, he got a faraway look in his eyes as he drove and thought about it, like someone thinks about a lost love. He said to me, "It's like everything's okay! No matter what life's really like, it made it all not matter." And that's not dealing with life on life's terms, it's an illusion that traps and kills many of us. All opiates are heroin in pill form. You've gotten off them, my advice, stay the eff off them, it's too great a risk. Learn different ways to deal with any pain, whether it be a real physical or a psychological one. The price of going back to drugs may not be one you would make it back from. No shit.

Again, pat yourself on the back for getting off the drugs. Live your life without them. Yeah, I know, it sucks sometimes, you'll survive. And that's the point of it all really. You will survive. They say God's got a master plan for us all, as long as we don't get in the way of it.

;^)

What book is Tom Papa talking about in this clip? [R]

2 years, 10 months agoReddevil313 posted submission on JoeRogan.
Dec. 11, 2016
2 years, 10 months agoReddevil313 posted on JoeRogan.
Dec. 11, 2016

Thanks

I found a slightly different listing for it

Healing Back Pain: The Mind-Body Connection https://www.amazon.com/dp/0446557684/ref=cmswrcpapa_gzGtybYRZGSG9

I've started running every morning and have some questions! [R]

2 years, 11 months agomiby posted submission on xxfitness.
Nov. 10, 2016

So it's getting colder and I would love any tips you guys have on staying relatively comfortable and not losing motivation when the temperatures drop below freezing. I don't run very far, and I'm kinda out of shape in terms of cardio but I want to change that and need to start somewhere!

One problem is that I've started to feel a lot of lower back pain and I don't know if it's due to my running posture or if it's normal and I just need to stretch more and do yoga.

If I run everyday can I combine it with lifting? Should I skip the run if I want to do a leg day?

All advice is appreciated!

2 years, 11 months agomiby posted on xxfitness.
Nov. 10, 2016

I ran a lot when I was in high school. I switched to weightlifting after I graduated and recently started running again. I noticed the back pain too. I thought it was odd since I never had it when I ran before. (I'm only 26)

I noticed that I stiffen my back when I run and started making a point to move my back more when I am running and that helped a lot. Another thing I did was read this book it completely changed my mindset on my pain and I have absolutely no pain when running or lifting now :)

Good luck!!

As for the cold running... I really can't help because I live in the south and it's basically never cold lol

35/F - sudden onset of upper back/neck pain almost 4 weeks [R]

2 years, 11 months agoOct. 26, 2016

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2 years, 11 months agoFitness4BackPain posted on backpain.
Oct. 28, 2016

I would definitely continue to seek professional help but not only that but really look for someone who will spend just as much time addressing movement issues, posture issues and any other mechanical issues you have. Pain that isn't brought on by a sudden traumatic accident is usually cumulative. Which means years and years of poor habits eventually break the body down. Then when you try to start fixing it your body isn't used to it and the muscles you haven't used in awhile begin cramping and tensing up from this sudden use. This goes away with time you just have to stay the course and try to ease into it.

I dealt with a floating pain for a while and would always spend my time chasing that pain and trying to treat it instead of looking at the root cause.

Keep in mind that the source of the pain you're experiencing isn't necessarily where the solution to the problem is. If that makes sense. Most of the time you have to look up and down-stream from the pain source to really get a solution. This is where testing and experimenting on yourself with treatment or finding someone you trust to do it for you.

The 3 biggest factors that people overlook time and time again is how we sit, stand and bend. For anyone dealing with back pain or any posterior chain issues, I would first learn to master these movements before ANYTHING else. You can go to a PT until your blue in the face and do all the stretches and exercises they give you but if you leave the office, get in your car, go home and not continue correcting the root issues you will never get better.

On the bright side, your situation is NOT hopeless. Pain affects people differently so you are NOT crazy. always remember pain is just our body letting us know that what we have been doing isn't good abd Its time to find those issues out and make the change.

As far as the mind-body connection and how stress can impact us a good book I read a few years ago is called The Mind-Body Connection by Dr. Sarno It's changed my life and how I looked at what was then my chronic back pain.

Hope this helps

Lots of pain, no answers [R]

2 years, 11 months agoGetOffMyLawn_ posted submission on ChronicPain.
Oct. 24, 2016

I've had chronic stomach/intestinal problems for four or five years and they got significantly worse last year, with me throwing up nearly every day. I stopped eating for the most part because it was so bad. While it isnt quite as severe anymore, I still have days where smelling food makes me gag.

It was around that same time I started having constant pain everywhere. My back would pull/seize up and it would hurt so bad i would just instantly throw up. My muscles started hurting like i had been working out. My joints started to feel brittle and i stopped being able to write, draw, or even type like i used to. I also get really bad headaches all the time, but I think some of that is vision related. I went to the ER last month complaining of a 5-day headache, dizziness, and shaking, and the results basically were "we can see there's definitely something wrong but we have no idea what it is, sorry"

I don't know what this could be. I've suspected fibromyalgia, but I'm not 100% sure. I have issues with depression & anxiety and I'm sure those contribute to feeling terrible all the time, but I really don't think that's all it is.

I'm sorry to drop my whole life story here & im sorry if this is barely coherent, I got sick again this morning and I decided I really needed to tell someone about this. If anyone has any idea what could be wrong with me, or any advice in general, or pretty much anything to say I'm more than willing to listen.

2 years, 11 months agoGetOffMyLawn_ posted on ChronicPain.
Oct. 24, 2016

My first thought is that you're malnourished. I used to have about 80 different food allergies and it is hard to stay healthy if you can't eat properly. Eventually I found a diet and foods that fit my allergy pattern. Eventually most of my allergies went away, I still have a few. You may have a malabsorption problem due to your intestinal issues so you are not absorbing the nutrients you eat.

So first I would work on finding a diet that you can tolerate. Nowadays there are meal replacement drinks like Soylent (/r/soylent has info about it and several brands as well as DIY recipes). On days you can't tolerate solid food maybe something liquid will go down. Even a protein shake would be helpful, or something like Ensure or Boost.

You might want to see a nutritionist who can help you construct a diet friendly to your condition.

Definitely take a multivitamin, it's not a substitute for real food but it will help. The widespread pain sounds like a vitamin D deficiency http://www.webmd.com/pain-management/features/vitamin-d-deficiency-and-chronic-pain-link. A multi may or may not have enough vitamin D. You could try taking 2000 IU a day of D3 to start and see if you feel better in a month. It's safe to take up to 10,000 IU a day so even if you're taking a multi with D and an additional D supplement you won't be getting too much. I take 5000 IU a day and it controls my muscle pain and my depression.

I also think some of this is stress related. Being sick is stressful. Being sick can make you sicker. You get stuck in a downward spiral. I also have anxiety/depression and I know how that tends to magnify things. A minor thing can seem like a big thing, a big thing can look humongous. Things you can do to manage your stress/anxiety/depression are CBT, meditation, relaxation exercises, exercise, medication, supplements. Something like yoga or tai chi can provide both exercise and meditation. Yoga classes often end with a relaxation session.

You may want to look at a couple of books. Sarno and Kabat-Zinn. Sarno didn't help me, but lots of people find him helpful. Kabat-Zinn was extremely useful for me. There are some YouTube videos about these guys as well.

You do need to see a doctor and get a complete workup. I doubt you got one in the ER. They're looking to solve the immediate problem. Have you been seeing a GI specialist for your intestinal issues? When you see a doc get your vitamin D levels tested. If you are deficient they will prescribe very high dose D supplements for you.

I feel a profound sense of sadness that the days of real space exploration are out of the reach of my lifespan [R]

3 years, 2 months agoincrediblemonk posted submission on space.
Aug. 1, 2016

While many would tell you we live in an utterly exciting age, that mostly holds true if your sense of wonder derives from the microchip. But even the fastest computer, or even quantum computer won't excite me the way a single still photo of an exo-planet would.

I've seen this stated before about our generation; "born too late to explore the earth, too early to explore the stars".

I know there's still the potential we find some form of life within our solar system in the next 50 years, but I have to temper my hopes with the reality that we may not find anything. The real journey begins the day man (or machine) enters the first solar system that isn't ours, and I regret that I won't be alive to see it.

Edit: I'm really stunned at how this took off; thank you guys for so many wonderful comments and contributions. Now that I'm home from work I'm really enjoying reading through all of this and I respect and appreciate all of the insight being offered.

3 years, 2 months agoincrediblemonk posted on space.
Aug. 1, 2016

Read this for your chronic pain. All of it. It helped me.

Can chronic pain be a form of depression? [R]

3 years, 6 months agojenna52cali posted submission on depressionregimens.
March 28, 2016

I have had depression and related issues for seven years now. It's very strange, in the beginning it manifested as anxiety/possibly ptsd. I just felt stressed anxious and shitty. I went on effexor and it more or less got rid of most of the anxiety.

Over the past few years I have developed chronic pain. Fibromyiglia type issues with stiffness and overall pain in places that should not hurt. On some days I feel so shitty it can feel hard to walk, every part of my body hurts more or less.

My doctor thinks all my pain is being caused by depression. To which I respond, but if I didn't have all this fucking pain, I wouldn't be so depressed. But maybe depression is just manifesting itself differently than the way it started out with me. Anxiety > chronic pain. I remember having the same hopeless feeling in regards to anxiety as i do my chronic pain now. 'I feel so awful, I don't know what to do, I feel helpless and lost.' This does sound an awful lot like depression I guess.

I've started lexapro, but I'm just wondering if all my chronic pain really is just a chemical imbalance? It seems to simple, but maybe they are right? Someone showed me an article talking about how the pain parts of the brain are in the same areas of the depression related areas. I've tried to do some bro research and all I could come up with is that the 5-hta receptors may be implicated in pain related disorders. If anyone has any inisight into the relation of pain and depression, please let me know.

3 years, 6 months agojenna52cali posted on depressionregimens.
March 29, 2016

You should look into somatoform disorders. I highly recommended you read Healing Back Pain by Dr. John E. Sarno.

http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

My 5 year Kratom Experience [R]

3 years, 6 months agoRileserson posted submission on kratom.
March 24, 2016

Hi everyone,

I'm posting here to present my experience, no more and no less, with Kratom. I'm a long time user (about 5 years).

Let me preface this by saying that I in no means mean to demonize kratom or want it to be banned, on the contrary I love kratom and I think it is a wonderful treatment option for a wide range of ailments and also for people suffering from opiate addictions. I am simply giving my experience over the last 5 years.

So it all started back in early 2010 when I did a google search for legal alternatives to alcohol as I decided to abstain due to behavioral issues while being intoxicated... I found a website that discussed some legal "highs" and kratom was listed and was highly lauded as a great introduction into the world of psychoactive substances. I worked at a place that did drug testing so I made sure it was not detectable and bought an ounce of super indo.

I got my little box in one day and tried a spoonful with some hot water and whoa... all I could think was "yeah, this really takes the edge off." Keep in mind at this point I was completely opiate naïve so I was completely new to the effects kratom would bring. So I decide to put together an Ikea bookcase that day and I realize I am getting rather frustrated with it, despite being full of energy and no desire to stop working. After I complete this task I go outside to smoke and I notice the nicotine is potentiating the effects of the kratom and I feel like... life is fucking great. I think to myself, so this is what it's like to be at peace with the world.

So for the next 10 months or so my routine was to buy my little ounce of kratom once per week, this would be taken for 2-3 days straight then I would abstain for 4 days as recommended by most websites. I was quite aware of the warnings not to take it everyday and heeded those warnings, and everything was great. I finally had something that I could take that wouldn't be so judgment-affecting as alcohol, that gave me something to look forward to each week, I can't express enough how great this was.

During this time period I had my wisdom teeth pulled and I was introduced to the wonders of hydrocodone. I had 20 pills and man what a great 20 pills those were. This was the last time I had typical opiates before I got addicted to kratom. This was also when I noticed the similarities of traditional opiates to kratom. Hydrocodone was much more "numbing" than the energizing kratom though, however it was noticeably much more powerful on the opiate receptors.

All was good, then came the beginning of 2011, when I noticed a sale of 4 ounces of kratom on another website. I ordered this and the supply lasted a little over a week. Please note I have absolutely no willpower when it comes to kratom - if it is in my house I will use it regularly. So this supply is running out and I decide, "what the hell, what's once more 4 ouncer?" and I buy again.

Thus began my journey into kratom addiction, back out, back in again, and back out to where I am now currently 4 days kratom free.

After the second supply ran out I noticed that the kratom wasn't working like it use to - the tolerance had built up. I decided to give it a break like I usually do and for the first 20 hours or so I was fine. It was at the end of a workday, I went to take my daughter bowling and I felt, just like shit. I just had this overwhelming feeling of tiredness, agitation, slight depression, anxiety, etc. I said hell no to this and quickly ordered another 2 ounces. After that 2 ounces I ordered 4 more. Thus began the cycle and I dreaded going into withdrawal again. Now I was not taking kratom as a reward after a 4 day break, I was taking it to not go into horrible W/D's. The whole time I kept this a secret and started spending large amounts of money on kratom - hell I've probably spent over 6 thousand dollars in the whole 5 years I've been a user.

After about 3 months of daily use (upwards of 1 and 1/2 ounces per day) I noticed two different chronic conditions coming on:

1 was neck and upper back pain. I felt like I had to stretch my neck and upper back but could never get relief. This is a problem that become chronic and persists to this day -

even when completely kratom free I have constant pain in my right side upper back, neck and all attempts at treatment have failed (physical therapy, massage, chiropractor). I had an MRI done and nothing conclusive was found (this was about 6 months ago).

2 was extremely bad constipation. Like really, really bad. I then learned about magnesium citrate and I will say that this supplement is absolutely necessary when you are taking

kratom everyday or you will have constipation unlike that which you have ever seen. I did a research paper on the book "Junkie" by William S. Bourroughs, and one line in that book kept running in my head, about one of the characters talking about how they had to reach in and literally pull the poop out of their butt (sorry for the grossout) due to heroin abuse. That is how I felt until I started taking magnesium.

So at various times over the next 1 and 1/2 years I would run out of supply and the mail would not arrive on time so i would be 1 or 2 days without kratom, which was fucking miserable. I would be having restless legs syndrome, no sleep, anxiety, super pain in my back, it just sucked. I resorted to alcohol to take some of the edge off which did nothing but dull the pain for maybe a few hours then felt worse than before. I then started researching kratom addiction and the results were inconclusive, some people had a really hard time, some had barely any withdrawals.
All I know is that in my case it really sucked, whether or not that is because I am a wussy or something I do not know.

At one point I got smart and started ordering via wholesale, buying pounds of kratom at once which as a supply lasted about one month. Sometimes I'd stick with stem and vein for one month but this did nothing to ease the horrible withdrawals when i quit for one or two days.

Then I found the Imodium cure for opiate addiction and (heavenly sound) there was a way out! So one time I had a package get lost so I was 3 days without kratom and for the first time after taking about 12 Immodium 2mg capsules per 12 hours I felt like I could beat the addiction. But then the box came in on the 4th day and I went right back into using kratom daily.

Note: For myself, the Immodium "cure" proved vital, but not totally successful, for beating kratom addiction - more on that later.

Now I got a new job in another country for which the legality for kratom was not clear. Because of this I had to quit so I loaded up on Immodium and one week prior to leaving (so I wouldn't suffer horrible withdrawals while traveling) I quit. Well this didn't work out quite as planned. I took about 15 Immodium per day which did the trick nicely. While not completely comfortable my withdrawals were significantly reduced however I was unable to get any real sleep. Then came the day I flew out to Singapore (not the place I was going to work at but I was taking a one month trip there) which is uncomfortably close to the locations where kratom is from and where it is illegal to use. So I got to Japan which was the halfway point and stayed one night at Narita and holy crap, kratom withdrawal came back in full force, it was horrible, and Imodium did nothing to help.
It was like super anxiety and this feeling of not being able to stop shaking, I looked like a damn drug addict (which I technically was) in the airport terminal, no sleep, I finally crashed on the flight to Singapore for a few hours and this wave of anxiety slowly wore off. I got to Singapore and the next day I was at baseline - or so I thought. While I felt normal, I COULD NOT SLEEP. I mean no matter what I did I could not sleep. I was able to get a few Valiums and some muscle relaxants (orphenadrine) from a doctor but nothing more. The few Valiums I got put me to sleep but that was just one days worth so there I went, completely sleepless nights and hating it. Now knowing where I was in the world I got exceedingly desperate and Singapore is smack dap in the middle of natural kratom territory so I decided to see if I could spot some trees. I went to parks, gardens, jungle areas, I could find nothing resembling kratom trees so I assumed that being a tiny island they got rid of all the easily accessible areas one would find the trees. I was like a damn mad fool staring out the cab window during drives trying to spot a kratom tree, like a true fiend. I wasn't desperate enough to go on some deep jungle hunt though so I decided to just deal with it and after about 1 month, right around the time of finally arriving at my new job, I could finally sleep again. I then began to drink again though and my new job was... less than favorable I guess I could say.

And with that I will stop here and post part 2 in a later post.

3 years, 6 months agoRileserson posted on kratom.
March 24, 2016

Try this book: http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684 My wife has chronic back pain and was recommended this book by a friend. Just got it in the mail and am hoping it helps, it has great reviews on Amazon and for $10 I figured it was worth a shot.

Question on potency and intake. [R]

3 years, 7 months agoSighOp posted submission on kratom.
March 4, 2016

I'm new to this, about 5 days ago new. I've been struggling with back pain for the last 2 years, had back surgery in November. According to my last MRI there is nothing wrong with my lower back, but I'm still having issues with my mod back. So i understand why myn surgeon says there's no reason for me to need strong pain meds, but i don't know if he believes me or not. I don't know why i rambled on about that, back to the question, I've read here that a majority of people do the "wash and toss" which is how I've been doing it. I'm horribly clumsy, every time i do it i end up inhaling it somehow or spilling it all over my shirt. So my question is would it take any longer for it to get into my system or lose some of the effects if i put it into capsules?

I'm looking for any way to make less of a mess. Any ideas and comments are appreciated.

One extra question, how big is the difference in product between vendors? I see some prices as high as $40 for 4oz in a couple places, and one site has a kilo for $71 for the same strain. Is there any difference?

3 years, 7 months agoSighOp posted on kratom.
March 4, 2016

Before you have any more invasive procedures, I would recommend that you read a short powerful book by Dr. John Sarno, "Healing Back Pain". It may change your life. http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

I have chronic myofascial pain and possibly fibromyalgia. When I hear that it's not real and is all psychosomatic it makes me feel like this was all my fault. [R]

3 years, 7 months agoGetOffMyLawn_ posted submission on Fibromyalgia.
Feb. 29, 2016

I have had severe chronic myofascial pain in my mid back and between my shoulder blades, mostly the right side. This has been going on for 2 years and is so bad I am unable to work as I cannot sit or stand for an hour. Of course long term disability cut me off because there's "no objective evidence" anything is wrong with me. The pain started suddenly one day and does not appear to be tied to a stressful event or injury/trauma.

I'm not in pain management yet as the waiting list where I live is a year. I had a doc who specializes in chronic pain give me trigger point injections and also Botox. Nothing worked. Now he's discharged me from his care saying it could be fibromyalgia and I should stop all medication, exercise and see a psychiatrist. He came to this conclusion because I also have horrible IBS and insomnia which sometimes causes fatigue since I was a teenager. I actually have been under psychiatric care for my insomnia and the severe depression and suicidal ideation I have developed due to chronic pain and loss of my income/job/life. 2 years ago I was fit, energetic, with a great career and new marriage and one day this pain started and never went away.

I've been reading online and it seems that the doctor was nicely telling me it's all in my head and nothing can be done for me, kind of like how my gastroenterologist wrote me off when they decided it was IBS. I've been reading a lot about chronic myofascial pain with no known cause and FM and how they are both considered psychosomatic. When I read this stuff it makes me feel like I have a crazy woman's syndrome and that somehow I did this to myself for not having my emotions in check. So now I feel like I ruined my life and there's no hope for me. My PCP does not think these disorders are "all in my head" but it seems like there are differing opinions on this and the Internet doctors are especially of the opinion you can't fix a psychiatric disorder with pain management.

It almost feels like victim-blaming by the medical community. Have you guys ever dealt with these feelings? How do you handle? I am feeling very hopeless and feeling like I ruined my own life makes me want to die even more so.

3 years, 7 months agoGetOffMyLawn_ posted on Fibromyalgia.
March 1, 2016

Even if "it's all in your head" it's not your fault. If it is that's actually good news, because it's potentially within your control. But first I would see a rheumatologist and see if he/she actually diagnoses fibro.

Normally gentle exercise helps fibro so I am surprised that a doc would tell you to stop if he thinks it's fibro.

If you want to pursue the psychosomatic route looks for books by Dr. John Sarno. Read the book and see if it makes sense to you. But don't neglect to see a rheum as well and make sure it is (or isn't) fibro.

I remember when I came down with CFS and the docs were telling me, well, you're depressed, you need to adjust your antidepressant medication. At that point I'd been dealing with depression and AD medication for decades, had been under psychiatric care for 10 years, it definitely wasn't depression or lack of appropriate medication. Took me a few years to find out that my medication was actually making me worse! I stopped taking ADs and found another way to manage my depression.

Does Dr.Sarno's methods work at all? Do they work for low back pain(herniated discs)? [R]

3 years, 10 months agoDec. 15, 2015

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3 years, 7 months agoi_have_a_gub posted on ChronicPain.
Feb. 24, 2016

I was dealing with some pretty severe lower back pain ~4 years ago and was diagnosed with a herniated disc at L4/L5. It got to the point where I could barely get out of bed in the morning. I came across a post on Andrew Weil's site that mentioned Sarno. I immediately recognized the name because I remembered Howard Stern talking about him in the past. I thought it was bullshit, but figured that it wouldn't hurt to read one of his books. So I did.

~20 pages in, I was nearly laughing because Sarno was describing my situation to a T. I finished the book and immediately started following Sarno's advice. I went back to doing yoga within a couple days, and started running again a few days later. Within about two weeks, I was back in the gym doing deadlifts. I occasionally get minor flare ups, but nothing that lasts for more than a day or two.

What to do with my life now. [R]

3 years, 8 months agorandomelska posted submission on TwoXChromosomes.
Feb. 12, 2016

In the early 2000's my husband was killed in a car wreck. My parents wanted me to move to their small coastal town, which I did. My father died within a few years. I am glad I got to be near him in his last years. We hung out a lot, I got to know him on another level which was great as I had moved away from home late in my teens and had always lived some distance away. After his death, I helped my mom until her recent death.

It seems as though these last 14 years were occupied being there for them. I loved it and there was nothing, absolutely nothing, I would rather have done.

Now that they are gone, I feel as though I have nothing to live for, there is no reason for me being on this earth. Other than to go to work and do the daily things you need to do to survive.

My question is what do I do with my life now. There has to be more to life than raising your kids, taking care of your parents and doing the daily grind until you die. I need to find something meaningful. That being said I had extensive back surgery which left me as bad, or even worse, than the problem I originally had. It takes a lot to get out of bed and do the things I need to do and at the end of the day my pain is usually so bad I can do nothing but go home and rest. If I can find that something to do, it might motivate me to push the pain aside and contribute to society. I was always able to do that for my folks no matter how bad I felt.

So friends, what do I do to give meaning to my life now.

3 years, 8 months agorandomelska posted on TwoXChromosomes.
Feb. 13, 2016

First, if you do like children and have thought about caring for them you could be a foster parent. Or if that's too much a CASA worker would be a great thing to volunteer to be. You go through a short course, I believe, and are then an advocate for a foster child. Or if kids aren't your thing volunteer for domestic abuse victims, the homeless, or what cause seems important to you.

Second, I don't know why you have back pain, but whatever the reason, I recommend reading "Healing back pain" by dr. john sarno. I can't recommend this book enough, it helped my brother who is now pain free. http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

Free Talk Friday [R]

3 years, 9 months agobitterjealousangry posted submission on reddevils.
Jan. 15, 2016

Have a good Friday guys :)

3 years, 9 months agobitterjealousangry posted on reddevils.
Jan. 15, 2016

It probably has more to do with stress or tight hamstrings. Well that's why my lower back hurts anyway.

I hear people rave about this doctor and the book.

Also here's a 20/20 segment on him. https://youtu.be/vsR4wydiIBI

Well, it was fun... [R]

3 years, 9 months agowalkersm posted submission on MechanicAdvice.
Jan. 14, 2016

Went to the doctors on Monday and got a ton of scans and Xrays. Doc calls me up today and confirms what I was afraid of. I have a heavily bruised L4 and L5. Either I have surgery to possibly repair it, or i find another less physically demanding job.

I was HOPING to work for Lexus for a while, but I seriously doubt that my dealership has space to lateral over to service advising. We are currently full up on S/As and technology/delivery specialists... Dont know if i shouls look at other dealerships, or if Lexus corporate even HAS positions available for people in my field....

I am at a loss guys and gals... My dad has a similar injury and he is in CONSTANT pain due to his not preventing further degeneration of his injury. Surgery is not a possibility due to my lack of PROPER medical insurance(VA health care isnt very good).

Anyone have any recommendations.

Lexus tech with MOST of the certifications, A5, A6, A7, SMOG inspector license. EPA 609 cert.

I just applied for any opening on Toyota corporates website... hopefully that will return SOMETHING.

3 years, 9 months agowalkersm posted on MechanicAdvice.
Jan. 14, 2016

BUt there is a certain part I would like you to consider. There are people walking around with your exact same spine abnormality that have no pain. THey dont know they have the abnormality becase they never go to the doctor to get a back xray. Just as there are people that have pain and take an xray and see no abnormality. I wish I could put it in car terms so you could see the logic. If you are looking for something and see something you in your mind make a causal connection even though one may not exist. And that is what the science has proved, there is not link between abnormalities of the spine and pain. WHat if that was true?

I am not going to try and convince you I just wanted to let you know what worked for me. In my thirties I imagine I was a lot like you. I used to go to a local park to drape myself over the curved park benches to get relief from my back pain. I am in my 40's now and never even think about my back. And I was cured by a book. All I will ask you is please please please before they try and cut into your back read a 60 page book By Dr. Sarno and try his techniques for a month. All you got to loose is $14.95

I wish you luck. Hope you can continue doing what you love for a living. What ever that is.

EDIT: A link to the book in case you or anyone else is interested: http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

Looking for a good doctor. Anyone have a recommendation? [R]

3 years, 9 months agoStucardo posted submission on orangecounty.
Jan. 5, 2016

Preferably in Irvine. Currently going through some lower back pain issues, suspect a pinched nerve

3 years, 9 months agoStucardo posted on orangecounty.
Jan. 6, 2016

This worked for me, IMO most back pain can be solved by yourself

http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

Lets talk join health - what do you do to prevent wrist strain? [R]

4 years agocorrspt posted submission on webdev.
Sept. 24, 2015

I'm doing some landscaping around the house and I feel like one of those black and white infomercials where the old lady drops the garden trowel and grabs her wrist. It really hurts. Not a good place to be at 29 years old.
 
But I digress. What do you use to protect your wrists? Any supplements, braces, etc?

4 years agocorrspt posted on webdev.
Sept. 24, 2015

Hi

I've been on a similar place but with Tennis elbow starting in about 2011 (I'm 31 now).

I've done physiotherapy, osteopathy, acupuncture (and things in between) nothing really worked 100%. I've always got better and then worse, then better then worse. But it was useful, as at the peak of the problem I literally had to stop working for a certain time (think 10/20 minutes) to ease the pain. And with the treatments I got to a point where things were manageable.

I've used a vertical mouse for a time because of wrist pain and it helped, but I think overuse also brings other issues. I've also used a trackball, but I think it's not much better (for my case at least).

I've tried an ergonomical mechanical keyboard and although I like it a lot and it's very comfortable, I don't think it solved any problem. I do recommend a good mechanical keyboard, not necessarily the one I linked to. There are also some very curious alternatives (which I never tested)

I've also tried John Sarno's and I got to say that I think it has its merits. Although it feels very weird to take what he says seriously (for me at least), I did find some matching points with what he described and I also improved to some degree (the book was like 7$ on Kindle, so I thought... what the heck, might as well try - but I did try with all my heart)

The thing I like the most in my current setup are these arm rest supports. They were expensive but I really enjoy working with them. It makes it very comfortable to be on the desk typing.

At the moment my elbow pain is perfectly manageable. Most days I don't have pain. I also found that push-ups help (weird as it may sound). If my elbow starts to hurt (or I foresee that it may hurt) I do 10 push-ups. I also do some stretching exercises that my physiotherapists recommended me.

Hope I helped, best of luck with your wrist pain.

You can now buy signed posters by Bucket! [R]

4 years, 1 month agoSept. 11, 2015
4 years, 1 month agodamaged_but_whole posted on Buckethead.
Sept. 11, 2015

$35 for an 8x10? I'm not sure if that qualifies as a poster since that's smaller than a standard piece of letterhead paper.

If he's hurting for cash, he should start a Kickstarter campaign. I'm sure his fans would be more than happy to help him out.

BTW, someone give him this book: http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

Check out the 1000+ reviews. It worked for me.

26 and getting back surgery...any others [R]

4 years, 1 month agoSept. 10, 2015

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4 years, 1 month agobjjcripple posted on surfing.
Sept. 10, 2015

Before you go under the knife, check this book out.

It sounds like some hocus pocus bullshit but give it a try

http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

How Do You Handle The Depression That Accompanies The Pain? [R]

4 years, 1 month agoAug. 31, 2015

I have 24/7 back pain, and depression that has come along suddenly with the pain. How should i go about addressing this issue? Will depression meds help alleviate the depression even if the cause of the depression (my pain) is still present? I mean it's gotten to the point where i think of suicide all the time, and i feel like i need to do something quickly before it's too late.

It's tough because my pain is going to be there in the meanwhile as doctors can't give me a diagnosis or the reason for my pain. Have gotten an Mri, x-ray, tried PT, ice and heat, anti-inflams, all the usual.

4 years, 1 month agoFitness4BackPain posted on ChronicPain.
Sept. 3, 2015

I am sorry to hear about the severity of your back pain. We are programed as humans to believe that pain is always linked to something broken or out of place. In most cases that's true but just like going to see a Psychologist for your thoughts, you have to consider the mind body connection.

Believe me it is very real. I spend most of my time helping people with physical issues but every once in a while you will find someone who needs there focus to be somewhere else.

read it or not but this book has changed lives all over the world.

Check it out: http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684/ref=sr1fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1441311469&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=rick+sarno

[dual question] How does one warm up for a jog? [R]

4 years, 1 month agoincrediblemonk posted submission on running.
Aug. 23, 2015

How does a person warm up for a jog when usually a jog is the warm up for other work outs? I've been jogging for a week and a half, I'm an overpronated runner and haven't gotten the right shoes yet. I've had to lay off for a couple days and alternate a knee brace between both knees but I want to get back to jogging asap because I'm already addicted, but I don't want to over do it and be out of commission longer.

Can I get back to light jogging/walking combo even though my knees are still achy or is this something I should just bite the bullet on and not jog until the pain is almost/completely gone?

4 years, 1 month agoincrediblemonk posted on running.
Aug. 25, 2015

It's REAL PAIN. Except there is no injury. The brain is just unloading stress into the body. Sometimes at a previous injury site, sometimes randomly. Sometimes it's migraine headaches, back pain, ulcers, etc. It's also universal. ALL adults suffer from stress related ailments. And 90% of "chronic pain" is due to stress, not an actual injury. Hence the term "chronic". It doesn't heal because the injury is not at the site of the pain. (ie people don't treat the real cause, the stress).

Read the following books by Dr. Sarno. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nbsbssc0_17?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=the+mind+body+prescription&sprefix=the+mind+body+pre%2Caps%2C235

http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684/ref=sr11?ie=UTF8&qid=1440506525&sr=8-1&keywords=healing+back+pain

Check out youtube on RSI and Dr. Sarno. It was this story that opened my eyes and caused me to investigate further.

And of course, your average Joe has zero chance of ever accepting this, much less taking the steps necessary to recover, hence a lifetime of chronic pain, and futile pill popping.

[Rant] I lost 100lbs in 2013 with keto, healed all my ailments, and my lack of coping mechanisms made me throw it all away. Learn from my mistakes. [R]

4 years, 2 months agoJuly 28, 2015

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4 years, 2 months agophilthadelphia posted on keto.
July 28, 2015

One morning I woke up and could not walk. Turns out I had 2 herniated disks that were pressing on my nerve. A year of physical therapy, 3 epidural injections, and hundreds of mgs a day of pain killers later, the doctor told me that my only option would be surgery. It freaked the fuck out of me to think that I was 23 and would need back surgery or I would never be able to walk normally again (i.e. without being in major pain and hunched over).

Then my aunt gave me a copy of a book called Healing Back Pain by Dr. John Sarno and within a matter of weeks all of the pain was gone and the path to rebuilding muscle (after a year of zero activity) began.

Try to read the book with an open mind. I swear by it and have personally called Dr. Sarno to thank him for the tremendous gift!

My name is Mikgezo, and this is my story. [R]

4 years, 4 months agosmithreddit posted submission on NoFap.
May 19, 2015

Hello No Fap, long time commenter, first time poster. Actually had someone suggest that I post my story so here it goes. Just in time for my 30 day celebration!

I started to fap to porn at 17 (bit of a late bloomer but whatever). Once I found this "amazing" place on internet porn, that's where my sexual interests stayed. For 5 years I had no desire to peruse a a girlfriend. For 5 years I wanked to internet porn at least once a day to get my release (sometimes more). For 5 years, I preferred to stay home in my room, with my computer and penis in hand, rather than go out with mates and live my life. Interestingly, Fapping had no impact on my school or University grades, as I was basically an honour student, being awarded scholarships for my academic excellence.

Late last year I developed some serious lower back pain. I had no idea what caused it to appear randomly, but I knew it was painful. After using google I found that it might be link to my excessive masturbation habbits. So I thought, what the heck maybe I'll stop masturbating. That is when I found No Fap. After reading the post from others, I began to notice some similarities. Comparatively weak erections, not wanting to socialise, overeating and eating too many sweats, and just thinking of every day when I could get home to Fap to porn!

It has not been an easy journey, full of failure and relapses over many months, but that is not why I am posting today. Today marks the first day I have reached 30 days on No Fap. I cannot say it has completely changed my life, but I feel so much better about myself and there have been some great changes. With the state of engineering work where I live, I thought I would have no chance at getting a job. To my surprise I have already scored 2 interviews out of the 4 applications I have heard back from. Compared to last year when I heard back from about 15 and only got a single phone interview. I have also hit the gym harder than before, not caring if it's cold, wet, or if I'm tired or hungry. No excuses, I go to the gym and lift the weight. Oh, and that back pain I had is significantly less, guess fapping was having more of an effect on my physically than what I thought.

And recently, my attitude towards women is changing. Normally I would get extremely hung up on any girl I liked but now it is different. I do not mind as much whether this girl likes me, or whether I have a girlfriend or not as it does not define me as a person. I am making changes in my life and pushing myself to the next level as a result. If eventually I find a women that likes me for who I am and can compliment me in my life goals that would be nice, but I feel less dependent on needing a girlfriend to attain a social status.

No Fap cannot be a placebo effect with the mindset it helps deliver. I still feel the urges come every now and then, but I understand that they do not mean anything.

Apologies for the wall of text, but I had a lot to say :)

See you all when I get to 60 days!

TLDR: Read the whole thing it's awesome!

TLDR(real): First time reaching 30 days No Fap. Feel better, more control, less back pain, less care for what others think of me, no longer thinking of women as objects.

EDIT: Thank you everyone for the positive words and encourage, it means a lot. I would not be at this streak if it were not for the community and I would probably still be stuck in the horrible world of internet porn.

4 years, 4 months agosmithreddit posted on NoFap.
May 19, 2015

Actually it can. The world's best backpain doctor in the world, Dr. John Sarno discovered that a significant portion of backpain was psychosomatic.

I highly recommend watching this 20/20 interview with him which is quite mind blowing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsR4wydiIBI

A great book of his is:

"Healing Back Pain: The Mind-Body Connection"

http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

Psychosomatic is actually quite fascinating...you can google Tension myositis syndrome for more info...

I am a christian but the amount of suffering I have in life has caused me to doubt God's existence [R]

4 years, 8 months agofeffsy posted submission on Christianity.
Feb. 5, 2015

I am a christian. I go to a christian college(wheaton college) and I went to a theological school for two years prior to this. I did not grow up a christian but converted after years of drug use through my youth.

4 years ago I came down with back pain that has not left and has caused me to have back surgery which did not fix my pain. I can no longer run or work out due to this pain.

2.5 years ago I came down with a very severe auto immune type disease somewhat similar to multiple sclerosis or severe rheumatoid arthritis. I am 26 years old. I have pain every day. I am on an extremely strict diet because it helps with the auto immune issues but I still have chronic pain and the doctors cannot even give me a diagnosis because they cannot find anything wrong even though I have many physical symptoms. I have seen over 15 specialist in the past 2 years.

I used to love exercise and once i got off drugs it was my new hobby, but the back issue has taken that away, and now I have back pain all the time regardless of activity level.

All this to say, I suffer physically every day and it is taking a toll on me mentally. I know Paul had a thorn in the flesh and that he prayed for it to be taken away but God had a purpose in it and allowed him to suffer. I find no solace in God when it comes to my pain. I find resentment in my heart and feel like he is apathetic toward my pain.

To me it makes more sense that life is random and some people suffer and others don't just due to the randomness of life, and there is no divine purpose behind it at all. That is the only way I can make sense of all of the terrible things that go on in the world.

I don't always feel this way but I do today and I do quite often. My sickness and pain has pushed me further away from god and I just don't really know what to think.

4 years, 8 months agofeffsy posted on Christianity.
Feb. 6, 2015

Regarding your back pain; take a look at the books "Healing back pain" and "The Mindbody prescription", both written by John e. Sarno. I think either one them might just help you. Please, give it a try!

Chronic Unsolved Back Pain may soon result in Suicide; I'd Prefer Cancer. [R]

5 years, 2 months agoKK444 posted submission on ChronicPain.
Aug. 13, 2014

Added 3D CT Scan image August 16th

I receive no empathy, I think I'd rather have cancer.

I've been dealing with chronic back pain for nearly six years. Six years during a man's physical prime. It started at age 21, and has gotten worse and worse with each treatment. At the time of this writing I am age 27.

The worst part about chronic back pain for me, is that it becomes very difficult to focus. Writing things such as this tends to be sloppy and without structure; I used to be able to write a quality paper quickly. The pain is terrible on some days, not so bad on others. My quality of sleep is terrible.

I began working very hard to get my body into olympic calibur shape thinking my back pain would be reduced. I had went from 160 lbs. at 5'7" to 130 lbs. of lean muscle. great cardio, and the best flexibility of my life. This changed nothing.

Despite being in the best shape of my life. My college girlfriend of five years was always nagging me about having no career motivation. My career wasn't going anywhere as I was dealing with doctors appointments. She wouldn't let off, which led to us separating in August 2010.

After having four cortisone injections within a three month period; now January 2011. I thought I was cured. I soon moved in with my new girlfriend who was very successful. I managed to find a dream job, though short lived. After a few months the pain returned. Had to quit my job and move back in with my dad. My girlfriend had to move far away for grad school. I couldn't go with her as my insurance only worked locally. We tried long distance, but with my pain not improving after various other treatments; we mutually agreed to discontinue our relationship.

Now living with my Dad, the co-signer for my college loans. He was often unable to recognize how mentally draining this was. His pressure to get back to work added to the stress of uncertainty.

My first surgery didn't work, spent the next year at the doctors 1-3 days a month doing random treatments and physical therapy.

Around this time my claim for temporary disability relief was declined.

Surgery #2 made things worse. Shortly after my insurance discontinued as I turned 26.

It took me nearly a year to get insured again. I am now in works with a lawyer to appeal my disability claim.

I've been insured for over six months now and I have yet to even have a surgeon look at my CT scan that was taken five months ago. This is how slow the system is here in Boston / New Hampshire.

My credit has been ruined due to missed student loan payments. All my credit cards are close to maxed out just to keep myself alive living off rice and beans.

At this point my disability hearing should have occurred by now. Still no word on how soon it will be, and there is no guarantee it will be approved.

My appointment for my surgeon to view my CT scan is in two weeks. I'm currently so fearful of what may or may not happen on August 21st at that appointment.

My Results:

My Dad is stuck paying my college loans, a burden I would have never wanted to pass onto him.

I've been with my current girlfriend for over two years. She's finally becoming irritated by the lack of change in my quest to have better health. I sense if this continues, our relationship will deteriorate.

I've spent well over $10,000 with zero results.

I've been spending the best years of a man's life patiently awaiting a fix on something that most people don't consider to be serious.

I roll around in bed at night struggling to find comfort, often thinking of suicide in the process.

I now live with my 22 year old uneducated girlfriend, her mom, and her obese drug addict sister; I have nowhere else to go with my finances.

I'm 27 and owe over $100k in student loans still, my long term financial spreadsheet upon graduating college had me a happy man by this time.

I feel dumb, my head is cloudy, I often can't manage simple tasks anymore. These tasks take far longer than they should.

I can't enjoy simple pleasures in life anymore, the pain is always there nagging at me ruining practically everything in my life since turning age 21.

I think I would have preferred some form of cancer. At least people don't treat you like scum of the earth when you're leaching off everyone due to cancer.

I've probably left quite a few things out of this. Any input or help would be greatly appreciated.

4 years, 9 months agoKK444 posted on ChronicPain.
Jan. 8, 2015

OP, my heart swells for you. I am so sorry you are experiencing so much pain. It is such a silent and solo walk through, well, hell.

On the support side: there is an awesome org called 7 Cups of Tea that is "free, anonymous, and confidential conversations with trained active listeners. All conversations are deleted." It could be a great resource when you need someone to listen.

On the back pain side, one suggestion to look into with an open mind is John Sarno's method for solving chronic pain and RSI injuries called "The Mind-Body Prescription". I'm sure you can google the info you need, but just in case here is his book.

I have two friends who are incredibly intelligent, healthy, athletic men who, in their 20's, were healed by his method. One experienced such bad pain from typing that he couldn't hold his wife's hand, hold groceries, anything. He tried everything he could think of and nothing worked for long. The other would be woken from his sleep because of his pain and was planning to leave the company he started for a period of time because the pain was too terrible. They are rational, wonderful, amazing people and this ACTUALLY cured them, within a few days. They wrote about their story on Quora here

Dr. Sarno describes the type of people who most often benefit from his treatment/tend to have these chronic pain issues: "They tend to be perfectionistic, compulsive, highly conscientious and ambitious; they are driven, self-critical and generally successful. Parallel with these traits, and sometimes more prominent, is the compulsion to please, to be a good person, to be helpful and nonconfrontational. In short, people with TMS have a strong need to seek approval, whether it is love, admiration or respect." Does this sound like you?

If yes, keep an open mind and explore his work. I do hope with all my heart you are on the road to recovery soon.

FYI WARNING. I apparently got a crazy disc protrusion from trying to do too many pull ups. [R]

4 years, 10 months agoCOKeefe88 posted submission on bodyweightfitness.
Dec. 5, 2014

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4 years, 10 months agoCOKeefe88 posted on bodyweightfitness.
Dec. 5, 2014

I have a herniated disc at L4/L5. I've been severely limited and in constant pain for over 3 years.

I've recently read a book that I am confident will change my life.

Most people have severely degenerated discs at the L5/S1 level by the age of 20, but many of them never experience pain from this.

Many people have disc bulges/herniations/protrusions that are discovered accidentally in CT scans or MRIs done for other reasons, and which never cause pain.

Nerve compression - the supposed mechanism of back pain in disc herniations - normally causes numbness and paralysis, not pain.

Studies have been done showing that there is no correlation between disc herniations and back pain - that is, people who have no history of back pain are just as likely, on examination, to have a herniated disc as people who do have a history of back pain.

The book is called Healing Back Pain. Do yourself a favor and read it. It will change your life.

Good Doctors For Back Pain? [R]

5 years agoddesigns posted submission on pittsburgh.
Sept. 24, 2014

Hi, everyone!

My friend needs some recommendations for good doctors. She danced for ~10 years as a kid/teenager and is now having very severe back pain. She's tried going to GPs, chiropractors, acupuncturists, massage therapists, and they all tell her that she's too young (20) to be experiencing any real damage and sending her home with a bottle of pain pills.

Is there anywhere you know of that has good back/spine doctors who won't just blow her off?

5 years agoddesigns posted on pittsburgh.
Sept. 24, 2014

I can't help with a doctor but I highly recommend this book before she commits to surgery. It's only $8 on Amazon.

Chronic Unsolved Back Pain may soon result in Suicide; I'd Prefer Cancer. [R]

5 years, 2 months agocarolinerumur posted submission on ChronicPain.
Aug. 13, 2014

Added 3D CT Scan image August 16th

I receive no empathy, I think I'd rather have cancer.

I've been dealing with chronic back pain for nearly six years. Six years during a man's physical prime. It started at age 21, and has gotten worse and worse with each treatment. At the time of this writing I am age 27.

The worst part about chronic back pain for me, is that it becomes very difficult to focus. Writing things such as this tends to be sloppy and without structure; I used to be able to write a quality paper quickly. The pain is terrible on some days, not so bad on others. My quality of sleep is terrible.

I began working very hard to get my body into olympic calibur shape thinking my back pain would be reduced. I had went from 160 lbs. at 5'7" to 130 lbs. of lean muscle. great cardio, and the best flexibility of my life. This changed nothing.

Despite being in the best shape of my life. My college girlfriend of five years was always nagging me about having no career motivation. My career wasn't going anywhere as I was dealing with doctors appointments. She wouldn't let off, which led to us separating in August 2010.

After having four cortisone injections within a three month period; now January 2011. I thought I was cured. I soon moved in with my new girlfriend who was very successful. I managed to find a dream job, though short lived. After a few months the pain returned. Had to quit my job and move back in with my dad. My girlfriend had to move far away for grad school. I couldn't go with her as my insurance only worked locally. We tried long distance, but with my pain not improving after various other treatments; we mutually agreed to discontinue our relationship.

Now living with my Dad, the co-signer for my college loans. He was often unable to recognize how mentally draining this was. His pressure to get back to work added to the stress of uncertainty.

My first surgery didn't work, spent the next year at the doctors 1-3 days a month doing random treatments and physical therapy.

Around this time my claim for temporary disability relief was declined.

Surgery #2 made things worse. Shortly after my insurance discontinued as I turned 26.

It took me nearly a year to get insured again. I am now in works with a lawyer to appeal my disability claim.

I've been insured for over six months now and I have yet to even have a surgeon look at my CT scan that was taken five months ago. This is how slow the system is here in Boston / New Hampshire.

My credit has been ruined due to missed student loan payments. All my credit cards are close to maxed out just to keep myself alive living off rice and beans.

At this point my disability hearing should have occurred by now. Still no word on how soon it will be, and there is no guarantee it will be approved.

My appointment for my surgeon to view my CT scan is in two weeks. I'm currently so fearful of what may or may not happen on August 21st at that appointment.

My Results:

My Dad is stuck paying my college loans, a burden I would have never wanted to pass onto him.

I've been with my current girlfriend for over two years. She's finally becoming irritated by the lack of change in my quest to have better health. I sense if this continues, our relationship will deteriorate.

I've spent well over $10,000 with zero results.

I've been spending the best years of a man's life patiently awaiting a fix on something that most people don't consider to be serious.

I roll around in bed at night struggling to find comfort, often thinking of suicide in the process.

I now live with my 22 year old uneducated girlfriend, her mom, and her obese drug addict sister; I have nowhere else to go with my finances.

I'm 27 and owe over $100k in student loans still, my long term financial spreadsheet upon graduating college had me a happy man by this time.

I feel dumb, my head is cloudy, I often can't manage simple tasks anymore. These tasks take far longer than they should.

I can't enjoy simple pleasures in life anymore, the pain is always there nagging at me ruining practically everything in my life since turning age 21.

I think I would have preferred some form of cancer. At least people don't treat you like scum of the earth when you're leaching off everyone due to cancer.

I've probably left quite a few things out of this. Any input or help would be greatly appreciated.

5 years, 1 month agocarolinerumur posted on ChronicPain.
Sept. 2, 2014

Have you ever read Dr. John Sarno's book Healing Back Pain? Check it out. The reviews are crazy. Howard Stern is a massive fan, this book healed his back pain. http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684/ref=sr11?ie=UTF8&qid=1409669644&sr=8-1&keywords=healing+back+pain

TIL Eminem once took so much Methadone, doctors informed him that he had taken the equivalent of four bags of heroin, and was "about two hours from dying." [R]

5 years, 4 months agosanderson22 posted submission on todayilearned.
June 14, 2014
5 years, 4 months agosanderson22 posted on todayilearned.
June 14, 2014

I love my MFLB but I need more to my weed high than just a THC hit [R]

5 years, 4 months agoknownastwoletters posted submission on mflb.
May 21, 2014

I bought my MFLB two months ago now and a/love not combusting, b/love the stealth c/can get wrecked nicely enough on it with the right stuff:0

However, what I have found is that a diet of vaping high grade THC is, when used at the rate at which i would smoke usual glass pipes of weed, making me feel slightly depressed.

Now I can't categorically state that is the case. However, I've smoked hash/weed habitually for the past 30 years so know my "needs":) as well as mind well enough with regard to what makes me feel what.

In my heart of hearts I simply feel that on its own vaping THC is really not working for me at least in terms of giving me the hit I want (something more than just THC) but also the balance of not smashing the pipe endlessly.

To prove the point after a weekend of getting very high (and uncomfortably miserable, introspective, circular thought oriented) and knowing in my heart why I thought tonight to simply have a quick combusting pipe.

Surprise surprise there was the extra bit of the hit that I knew I was missing and that is the bit that really gets me going, if you know what I mean...:)

Ok, so I don't have to be wedded to my MFLB. But is the answer simply for some amount/ratio of combusting/vaping?

Or does anyone else have any ideas/experience around this?

Clearly this isn't a unique and would be interested how best to get round this other than trial and error. That last pipe has made me lazy again :):):)

5 years, 4 months agoknownastwoletters posted on mflb.
May 27, 2014

> my fucked up body that requires the use of medications to operate

read this http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

I know you will probably predictably say your body is fucked beyond repair because you were crushed to death or something but honestly the majority of pain that Americans cry about and get unlimited RX's for pain pills can be prevented without taking meds.

Can mixing weed with any prescription drugs be harmful? [R]

5 years, 5 months agoMay 12, 2014

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5 years, 5 months agoyouhavecouvades posted on trees.
May 12, 2014

If you wanna get real, try http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

Apparently, the vast majority of back pain is psychosomatic. I would say it is worth a shot. Constantly taking pain meds will fuck your liver up big time.

Lower back soreness [R]

5 years, 7 months agoFeb. 22, 2014

Never had this before. Not sure what its from though. Its a soreness that I feel when I stick my butt up and out when doing deadlifts and somewhat on squats.

I've been doing a ton of activities outside of lifting recently and I'm wondering. It this a form issue? Or just simply overuse?

The soreness is not on my spine. But it feels like its kidney to kidney level on my lower back. Just a general soreness (it is not a kidney issue, I just said that to show where the soreness is).

So I'm taking a few days off, but what do you guys think of it; besides seeing a doctor or posting a form check vid.

5 years, 7 months agosanderson22 posted on Fitness.
Feb. 22, 2014

hey bro, check out this book: http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

this book seriously saved my life. he has another 2 books he wrote as well. probably the greatest book i've read in my life.

Inches from my demise... [R]

5 years, 8 months agorainbowhugdancer posted submission on opiates.
Feb. 11, 2014

Sorry, just need to vent. I don't enjoy my life anymore, even being clean. I dabble with RX opiates for my pain but that's pretty much it. My back is in so much pain and no doctor is willing to help me. I can't sleep, it feels like an icepick is being lodged into my lower spine. I'm on the verge of a full blown relapse because I can't afford RX opiates so heroin is my only option. I've been contemplating just ending it all lately because I can't bare the pain. My parents could care less, my 'friends' pretend to care and my ex-girlfriend/best friend care rarely see me because her parents hate me because my family is poor. Then don't even know the opiate issue. I have nothing to live for. I figured I'd type this in case I do make the decision to call it quits. At least someone will know the reason why I did it. I might not go through with it, but this could be my last goodbyes. I don't have the heart to tell my ex but she'll find this if I do it. I don't want to leave people wondering.

If this is the end, I want to thank all of you for doing what you're doing. Showing people on Reddit we're more than junkies. Just know I'm not a coward I can't tolerate the pain, sleepless nights and depression any longer. I haven't been happy in years and I hate it.

Thank you guys for everything, maybe I won't end everything but if I do at least you guys know the reason. I barely know you guys, but much love to all of you and I hope you all have great lives.

-61OH -cccodyyyy

For those who want to match a face with a name, here I am. In the flesh. Not the most attractive person, but behind this face is a person who will give someone the shirt off my back. I am Cody.

http://i.minus.com/j58O8BD0qWS5o.JPG

5 years, 8 months agorainbowhugdancer posted on opiates.
Feb. 12, 2014

Here are a few things that may help. Try everything before you give up. I own the book and can ship it to you if you want.

http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684

Have you tried acupuncture? It works wonders for some people.

Also have you tried weed or kratom to help pain management?

Prohibitive knot in my back [R]

6 years, 3 months agoklahaya posted submission on Meditation.
June 21, 2013

I have an insane knot in my back that starts searing in pain about 10 minutes into meditation. This is a direct result of sitting with my back erect. I've had this knot for a long time and I've tried to get it "massaged out" but it's still there. I want to heal it, but in the meanwhile, how can I meditate for longer than 10 minutes without feeling the need to slump over?

6 years, 3 months agoklahaya posted on Meditation.
June 21, 2013

A controversial method, but one that helped me get rid of my sciatica, was reading Dr. John Sarno's book "Healing Back Pain."

What is the most offensive belief that you hold? [R]

6 years, 4 months agoJune 13, 2013

What is the one thing that you honestly believe that others might find upsetting?

Edit: Wow. Nearly 18,000 comments! Some of them offensive and many of them enlightening. Thank you all for your thoughts... there have been some fantastic discussions in this thread.

6 years, 4 months agoSHITMANGLER_PRO_3000 posted on AskReddit.
June 13, 2013

99% of back pain is psychosomatic. Imperfections in your vertebrae do not cause crippling pain, your subconscious does.

EDIT: 90%.

EDIT: For the open-minded who are interested: when I was desperate, this US$7 book and its concepts brought enlightenment and relief. The comments on Amazon may help convince you.

http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Back-Pain-Mind-Body-Connection/dp/0446557684/ref=sr11?ie=UTF8&qid=1371145907&sr=8-1&keywords=sarno

Poses to help out my back? [R]

6 years, 5 months agoMay 14, 2013

I seem to always wake up or end up with a stiff back, (and I know that yoga in general does help your back, but) I'm wondering if there are any poses in particular that would help on easing the tension or strengthening my back?

(For the record, I don't think this is really "normal" since I'm only 22, but... eh.)

6 years, 5 months agoTimmyj01 posted on yoga.
May 14, 2013

Healing Back Pain: The Mind Body Connection by John Sarno is an awesome book on this subject. Really you can apply this information to so many things in your life